2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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TyreSlip wrote:
01 May 2025, 21:25
peewon wrote:
01 May 2025, 20:27
Not sure how reliable this source is but it claims theres some small updates coming for this race and major ones for Imola.

https://www.grada3.com/us/2025/04/29/as ... el-alonso/
Interesting that they claim there will be a "big" update package in the second half of the season.
Like I said before, AM F1 have enough employees to work on 2 projects a the same time every year(Current year, next year). You can't find enough work for everyone on the "next year's" car. Plus, you also want to test out parts from the new tunnel in the real world for correlation purposes.

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peewon wrote:
01 May 2025, 20:24
Commissioning and Calibration are two separate steps of setting up the wind tunnel.
"Step zero is commissioning," Migeot explains. "This is where you have to check what has been sold to you is effectively achieved. You know, the air distribution, the turbulence, the temperature control, which is hugely important.

"You have to run the tunnel in all conditions and first check your builder has done a good job, then run all the electronics for the control [units]. It's a huge work for a group of people and is taking at least one month. And then if that's okay - because if that's not okay, you are fixing something which is not hours, but days and weeks of changes - then you start to work with the model."
This is the point till where the manufacturer or the external partners in the setup limit their involvement. From this point on its about calibrating the tunnel to the real world to ensure that the differences in the two are consistent even though a tunnel cannot replicate the real world exactly.

Migeot explains that a tunnel doesn't have to be perfectly calibrated to what is experienced on track, but the difference between the tunnel and real-world readings must be consistent.

"The tunnel will not give you the truth. It will give you something which, in the best scenario, is consistent with reality. If you have a quite fixed difference between reality and the tunnel, that's fine; it can't be identical. If you're confident that, when you improve in the tunnel, you know it's going to improve on the track, you're saving a huge amount of time.

FULL ARTICLE for those interested: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10671540/

Thanks, good read.

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peewon wrote:
01 May 2025, 20:27
Not sure how reliable this source is but it claims theres some small updates coming for this race and major ones for Imola.

https://www.grada3.com/us/2025/04/29/as ... el-alonso/
Not saying that nothing is coming, but this website is finest clickbait. Some (out of context statements) from officials, mixed with own opinions.

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-wkst- wrote:
02 May 2025, 08:38
peewon wrote:
01 May 2025, 20:27
Not sure how reliable this source is but it claims theres some small updates coming for this race and major ones for Imola.

https://www.grada3.com/us/2025/04/29/as ... el-alonso/
Not saying that nothing is coming, but this website is finest clickbait. Some (out of context statements) from officials, mixed with own opinions.
Yeah based on the headline, I could tell its either someone who has really close sources to Alonso or someone who likes a healthy dose of clickbait. Since the latter is more likely, I put the disclaimer.

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Re: 2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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diffuser wrote:
01 May 2025, 22:33
TyreSlip wrote:
01 May 2025, 21:25
peewon wrote:
01 May 2025, 20:27
Not sure how reliable this source is but it claims theres some small updates coming for this race and major ones for Imola.

https://www.grada3.com/us/2025/04/29/as ... el-alonso/
Interesting that they claim there will be a "big" update package in the second half of the season.
Like I said before, AM F1 have enough employees to work on 2 projects a the same time every year(Current year, next year). You can't find enough work for everyone on the "next year's" car. Plus, you also want to test out parts from the new tunnel in the real world for correlation purposes.
James Vowles said the following last summer :
“So, the agreement I had with my board, and the only reason why I signed to come on, is I want us to be successful in ’26.Which means, I’m not going to give up on ’24 or ’25, but they’re going to be very compromised…

“Our aero workforce is about 50 [people]. I have about five people working on this year [2025] – 45 people are working on 2026…


This was last summer, by now even the other departments have the majority of the resources allocated for 2026. Williams F1 has approximately 1.2K employees as of April 2025

Probably only Mclaren and RedBull have a balanced split of people working for 2026 and 2025.

I let you imagine how many people Cowell has allocated for 2026 and how many for 2025...