Schumi comes back

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remeber back after silverstone 1999 he came back after broken leg and blew everyone awaay over 1 second!!

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adam2007 wrote:remeber back after silverstone 1999 he came back after broken leg and blew everyone awaay over 1 second!!
You hint he should brake his leg again?

adam2007
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yes i do. nah i really hope he takes hamilton to school

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i think that ferrari is totally different dog when it comes to sneaking around regulations, redbull never bothered whether there is a possibility for jaime to test. they would never bother to do it.

but michael and ferrari are different from the rest, michael is different look at his commitment, man he is going to be fast.

GOT QUESTION: when was the last time when we had four champs on the track? (hami, kimi, schumi and alonso)

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siskue2005 wrote:
ISLAMATRON wrote:They asked FOTA for permission? I thought the FIA run F1? What about Williams & FIF1?
how convenient for you to twist what really happened :roll: :^o
They asked their rival teams which have FOTA and non FOTA teams + FIA
FOTA teams agreed dont know about the other 2 parties.

Ferrari has asked rival teams for permission to have Michael Schumacher test this year's car during the testing ban ahead of the European Grand Prix.

But Ferrari has written to the FIA and to its rival teams asking to allow Schumacher to test for a day with this year's F60 car in order to arrive better prepared for the Valencia race.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77456
The outside the "spirit of the rules" testing of the F2007 on GP2 slicks wasnt enough?
outside the spirit of rule?? :lol:

you know what is the rule first of all??

no testing with current and previous yrs cars ....thats the only rule
you can buy f1 cars 2 yrs old and run anywhere.....even you and me can do that if u have the money :wink:
and GP2 tyres would make the test simply useless for any data collection
thats why they purposly used that tyres.
this was just a test to get the cars feel and g forces
Now he gets to go do a whole day's test in the F60? Totally ridiculous the way any & every rule is bent for Ferrari.
Its totally upto FIA and all teams to agree
the testing ban is a agreement between team and FIA
What is the problem in asking??
if all the parties agree whats ur problem??
who are you to disagree?
do u have stakes in F1?? or any Vote in to veto this test?

and moreover this test (if it goes through) will be watched by FIA officals ...to make sure they dont use any new parts
READ:http://www.f1technical.net/news/13022... that is what we were commenting off of.

GP2 tires are as close to F1 spec as you are gonna find anywhere on earth.

FIA officials are not usually at 1 car tests.

The rest of your fanboy rant post is not worth addressing.

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ISLAMATRON wrote: READ:http://www.f1technical.net/news/13022... that is what we were commenting off of.
that link is wrong, read what autosport.com http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77456 its the most reputed site in the whole internet.

you look stupid , if you just look at one site and start trolling on it
GP2 tires are as close to F1 spec as you are gonna find anywhere on earth.
where is that quote from, can you prove it? never heard this before. no way a gp2 tyres will be more close to F1 spec as you are gonna find anywhere on earth.....its a lie or did u just pulled it out of ur ass or something? :lol:
FIA officials are not usually at 1 car tests.
read what redbull asked for
they allow the test on one condition that it should be monitored
The rest of your fanboy rant post is not worth addressing.
everyone here know [even the mods] that u are a troll
so stop calling others fanboy and have a proper discussion
and ofcourse you cannot comment on my post, because you dont have anything to counter my arguments

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siskue2005 wrote: autosport.com is the most reputed site in the whole internet.
I'll wager that google.com is of higher repute in the whole internet?

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siskue2005 wrote:
ISLAMATRON wrote: READ:http://www.f1technical.net/news/13022... that is what we were commenting off of.
that link is wrong, read what autosport.com http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77456 its the most reputed site in the whole internet.

you look stupid , if you just look at one site and start trolling on it
GP2 tires are as close to F1 spec as you are gonna find anywhere on earth.
where is that quote from, can you prove it? never heard this before. no way a gp2 tyres will be more close to F1 spec as you are gonna find anywhere on earth.....its a lie or did u just pulled it out of ur ass or something? :lol:
FIA officials are not usually at 1 car tests.
read what redbull asked for
they allow the test on one condition that it should be monitored
The rest of your fanboy rant post is not worth addressing.
everyone here know [even the mods] that u are a troll
so stop calling others fanboy and have a proper discussion
and ofcourse you cannot comment on my post, because you dont have anything to counter my arguments
The link is not wrong, although it may be incomplete, but it was there before the autosport report and so I commentated on it just as eveyone else on this thread.

MAybe if you pulled your head out of MS's ass long enough to look around you would know that GP2 tires have the same manufacturer, Bridgestone, and the same dimensions as F1 tires and since they go to the same tracks under the same weather conditions it is easy to see that they would be the closest to F1 spec. And seeing how GP2 had slicks before F1 reintroduced them it is safe to say that Bridgetone took some of the tire data from the GP2 tires to help develop the F1 spec slick tire.

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ISLAMATRON wrote: MAybe if you pulled your head out of MS's ass long enough to look around you would know that GP2 tires have the same manufacturer, Bridgestone, and the same dimensions as F1 tires and since they go to the same tracks under the same weather conditions it is easy to see that they would be the closest to F1 spec. And seeing how GP2 had slicks before F1 reintroduced them it is safe to say that Bridgetone took some of the tire data from the GP2 tires to help develop the F1 spec slick tire.
stop the personal attacks for the second time, if u dont mind [-X

according to ur theory then what about IRL they use b'stone, they use slicks, almost same dimension, they have been using it for a long time
is that close for u :lol:

its gp2 dude, its not the same compound as f1 tyres
the f1 tyres same compounds that they used in 2008 , only thing is the grooves are covered.
No way the gp2 tyre is closer to f1 tyres
and b'stone does not need to take some tyre data from GP2
they have alot of experience for decades to create a slick tyre

if u want to proove it go ahead
i dont want to here any assumpition, ifs, woulda, coulda about it
show us facts

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Amazing how Schumi manages life and time...

He has been spotted here in Hungary while visiting Massa in the hospital. Yesterday in Mugello by chopper, today here by jet...

He jumps from one country to the other as if anyone going to the grocery-store at the next corner.

The article below says that he and his son Mick and Jean Todt arrived today at noon. They did not talk to reporters or anyone, just drove from the airport (arriving in private Jet)straight to the hospital in a red Alfa Romeo which was driven by himself.

Pictures can be seen here:
http://sportgeza.hu/forma1/2009/08/01/s ... ta_massat/

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dave34m wrote:
RacingManiac wrote:
ISLAMATRON wrote:They asked FOTA for permission? I thought the FIA run F1? What about Williams & FIF1? The outside the "spirit of the rules" testing of the F2007 on GP2 slicks wasnt enough? Now he gets to go do a whole day's test in the F60? Totally ridiculous the way any & every rule is bent for Ferrari.

There is no rule stopping Ferrari's F1 Clienti program, I don't think there are rules stopping any of the curret driver to go out and drive an old car for a hobby. As far as the running of the F2007 goes that was not grey, it was black and white in that it is allowed. Ferrari run the Clienti program as a service to their collector who buys the ex-racecar. Now today the owner of that car lend the car to Schumacher, and Clienti program runs the car for Schumacher, on the private owner's behalf. Today its Schumacher, tomorrow it could be my father, makes little difference....

F60 is obviously different altogether. The test "ban" + factory shutdown is a gentleman's agreement between the teams. Just as they agreed to not work it just as well to agree to let him drive the car. Now it is not obviously outside of the spirit of the agreement, I think, for the other teams to request for a day of testing on their own, should they see it as an advantage to the Ferrari. If I were Williams or FI F1 I'd definitely do it......
If the testing ban is a gentlemans agreement then whats rule 21.1c all about then, it states:
c) No track testing may take place between the start of the week preceding the first Event of the Championship and 31 December of the same year.
Odd I thought it was handshake agreement, or at least something that the teams camem up with.
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Before anyone see the GP2 tire data overlay against the F1 tire data, I don't think we can say if it is close or not. But at anyrate, that still does not change the fact that its GP2 tire, NOT F1 tire. Which as I've said, any GP2 teams can buy for their own use(be it as use on GP2 car, or let Ferrari run it on F1 car), like any other feeder series, since there are no tire war going on, secrecy is not paramount. It could just be as easy as Ferrari ask for the tires from Bridgestone, and that STILL does not break any rules....

I do think however, that F60 test is redundent. What really matters for Ferrari and Schumacher's standpoint, is to ensure he is fit enough to drive a F1 car. The fact that F2007+GP2 tire runs in the same ball-park as the F60 on F1 slick during winter testing. Assuming if the current F60 is 1.5 sec faster, IF that, we are still talking peanuts here. And for the purpose of training Michael back up to speed physically, that probably is enough since the cornering G loading and whatnot will be close enough anyway....getting used KERS and adjustable frontwing then really is something saved for Friday at the race...

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F60 ran in January/February so the track would be quite a bit slower.
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GP2 teams cant just go buy the tires for use whenever they want, they too have an in season testing ban.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21138.html

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73849

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Watching that video gives me shivers to be fair. Its not even that impressive but just knowing its MS is amazing. Strange.