2025 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, May 23 - 25

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Hadjar's the most impressive rookie this year. Kimi is very good in certain race conditions but Hadjar shouldn't be qualifying ahead of Kimi given the cars they are driving.

Kimi is good but I think Hadjar is very good. Time will tell how their careers pan out.
Call a spade, a spade.

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f1isgood wrote:
24 May 2025, 20:10
For all this discussion, I expect no SC, VSC etc. Just a typical Monaco race, some overcuts to pass and some pitstop errors to cause some change in order......
I can imagine the betting odds for this are better than the odds for ANY driver win.

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f1isgood wrote:
25 May 2025, 08:32
Hadjar's the most impressive rookie this year. Kimi is very good in certain race conditions but Hadjar shouldn't be qualifying ahead of Kimi given the cars they are driving.

Kimi is good but I think Hadjar is very good. Time will tell how their careers pan out.
Let’s not forget that Antonelli is only 18. 2025 is only his 4th full season racing cars, crazy as it seems. He was still racing karts in 2021. I think he’s the real deal, he just has a lot to learn.

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Absolute chaos at the first corner in the F2 race
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Mogster wrote:
25 May 2025, 10:07
f1isgood wrote:
25 May 2025, 08:32
Hadjar's the most impressive rookie this year. Kimi is very good in certain race conditions but Hadjar shouldn't be qualifying ahead of Kimi given the cars they are driving.

Kimi is good but I think Hadjar is very good. Time will tell how their careers pan out.
Let’s not forget that Antonelli is only 18. 2025 is only his 4th full season racing cars, crazy as it seems. He was still racing karts in 2021. I think he’s the real deal, he just has a lot to learn.
He might be the real deal, I just find Hadjar more impressive especially with Antonelli getting to drive 9000km race distance before this season in private testing.
Call a spade, a spade.

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f1isgood wrote:
25 May 2025, 10:16
Mogster wrote:
25 May 2025, 10:07
f1isgood wrote:
25 May 2025, 08:32
Hadjar's the most impressive rookie this year. Kimi is very good in certain race conditions but Hadjar shouldn't be qualifying ahead of Kimi given the cars they are driving.

Kimi is good but I think Hadjar is very good. Time will tell how their careers pan out.
Let’s not forget that Antonelli is only 18. 2025 is only his 4th full season racing cars, crazy as it seems. He was still racing karts in 2021. I think he’s the real deal, he just has a lot to learn.
He might be the real deal, I just find Hadjar more impressive especially with Antonelli getting to drive 9000km race distance before this season in private testing.
Hadjar was involved in several days of private pre season testing in 2023 cars, they all do it, 20 days is the limit now for more recent cars. Anything older you can drive as much as you want. Horner referenced how well Hadjar had performed with Tsunoda as a benchmark.

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Mogster wrote:
25 May 2025, 10:07
f1isgood wrote:
25 May 2025, 08:32
Hadjar's the most impressive rookie this year. Kimi is very good in certain race conditions but Hadjar shouldn't be qualifying ahead of Kimi given the cars they are driving.

Kimi is good but I think Hadjar is very good. Time will tell how their careers pan out.
Let’s not forget that Antonelli is only 18. 2025 is only his 4th full season racing cars, crazy as it seems. He was still racing karts in 2021. I think he’s the real deal, he just has a lot to learn.
His place in a top team wasn't merited. That's the saddest part. I would love to see someone like Ocon getting chance instead. Antonelli should've spent at least a season in F3 before F2. Hasn't done anything impressive in F2 and got in 2nd best car in F1 right away. Incredibly undeserved and frankly a waste of that seat so far.
He might be very talented, but he is not the next MV. Nothing indicates he is.

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Mogster wrote:
25 May 2025, 10:30
f1isgood wrote:
25 May 2025, 10:16
Mogster wrote:
25 May 2025, 10:07


Let’s not forget that Antonelli is only 18. 2025 is only his 4th full season racing cars, crazy as it seems. He was still racing karts in 2021. I think he’s the real deal, he just has a lot to learn.
He might be the real deal, I just find Hadjar more impressive especially with Antonelli getting to drive 9000km race distance before this season in private testing.
Hadjar was involved in several days of private pre season testing in 2023 cars, they all do it, 20 days is the limit now for more recent cars. Anything older you can drive as much as you want. Horner referenced how well Hadjar had performed with Tsunoda as a benchmark.
I just only heard that Kimi has had 9000 kilometers worth testing from Toto. It would be great if you can share some info on Hadjar's test kilometers, as it'll help me calibrate my expectations for both better. You surely don't think that the Mercedes is slower than the Racing Bulls now, do you? :D
Call a spade, a spade.

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The F2 feature race was a farce. The race director should be investigated for corruption.

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Pirelli doesn't even bother
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I don't get all the hype and talk about stategy. The 2 mandatory stops won't change a thing. The 1 mandatory stop hasn't been of any influence on the race for years. Now you get 2 stops in a race and people start thinking it does?

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This is the last year for breakfast in Monaco on what’s referred to as the Greatest Day in Motorsports

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marcel171281 wrote:
25 May 2025, 12:27
I don't get all the hype and talk about stategy. The 2 mandatory stops won't change a thing. The 1 mandatory stop hasn't been of any influence on the race for years. Now you get 2 stops in a race and people start thinking it does?
Surely if there’s an SC early on then it’s back to usual service.

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we will see, I guess. Reason for this rule mainly was to prevent post red flag procesessions like last year, I think. A one-stop race is okay. Zero-stop is horrible.

But if we turn out to get a proper two-stop race, even better.

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I have put 10€ on a Fernando Alonso win from p6 with a lucky red flag.