Strange going-ons at Red Bull

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Is Webber being sabotaged by RB management?

Poll ended at 07 Jun 2010, 15:03

Yes
23
33%
Maybe
20
29%
Unlikely
17
24%
no way
10
14%
 
Total votes: 70

andrew
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Webber needs to learn that he is the number 2 driver in the team and accept that Vettel correctly gets preference where new parts are concerned.

autogyro
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Vettel is just as much the second driver as Webber.
They have both thrown away the championship IMO.
Webber was lucky not to have been taken out on the first corner with his equaly angry team mate.
It is soley Adrian Neweys brilliant car that won today.

vall
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andrew wrote:Webber needs to learn that he is the number 2 driver in the team and accept that Vettel correctly gets preference where new parts are concerned.
why is that? IS Vettel clearly faster and better? No IMO

andrew
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Well yes he is - when the luck goes his way.

vall
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andrew wrote:Well yes he is - when the luck goes his way.
and he is not when the luck goes Webbo's way :D

andrew
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His recovery drive today was excellent.

Mysticf1
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Mark has more points so now he IS no1 according to Redbull policy..........

myurr
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andrew wrote:His recovery drive today was excellent.
He wouldn't have made any any overtakes at all were it not for the safety car and his pace before then was mediocre and over a second a lap slower than the leading two cars despite being in clear air.

That the safety car closed the field and that then several cars crashed out in front of him flattered his driving. He made a couple of good overtakes and a really sloppy one past Sutil but that hardly constitutes and excellent drive. He was unlucky to lose so many places at the start through what was a very gentle tap, but he was also pretty lucky in his drive back through the field.

andrew
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Several cars crashed out? Who?

A Torro Rosso brokedown and de la Rosa retired but I think Vettel was past him by then.

myurr
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andrew wrote:Several cars crashed out? Who?

A Torro Rosso brokedown and de la Rosa retired but I think Vettel was past him by then.
Crashed was too strong a word but Alonso and Kubica both dropped out from ahead of him, and a couple of drivers went wide whilst he was cruising through making the pass just a case of driving past them on the racing line - from memory I think it was Liuzzi, who ran over the grass, and Hulkenburg who ran wide allowing Vettel to drive past him on the next straight. Didn't Petrov or one of the other drivers stuff up a corner too and let him past?

andrew
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Still passed a lot more cars than most and it was a good recovery drive in a dull "race".

myurr
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andrew wrote:Still passed a lot more cars than most and it was a good recovery drive in a dull "race".
Strange how you declare every race where Vettel finishes poorly as a dull race. But yes he did pass more cars than most and a couple of the passes were actually pretty good, but he also had some clumsy moves and had relatively poor pace until the safety car period, making me wonder if he was particularly trying. He had open track ahead of him, should have been lighting up the timing screens and not be trundling around a second a lap slower than Hamilton let alone Webber.

andrew
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I would say that all the races this year have been dull, regardless of the winner so no strangness at all.

If you read his post race quotes the car appeared to have spme samage from the tyre.

myurr
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andrew wrote:I would say that all the races this year have been dull, regardless of the winner so no strangness at all.
Strange - I have personally found this year to be much more exciting than last year with more close racing throughout the field.

andrew
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It is better than the last couple but not as good as F1 should and used to be.