2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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diego.liv wrote:Rosberg 6th, still can't understand why all the complexity of FIA rules..basically, when they demoted Vettel to P9 he and Verstappen were virtually sharing the same grid spot, but with Verstappen the preferred one to move up? Same goes for Ricciardo and Rosberg? Stupid
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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Almost all cars changed their pit limiter settings in parc ferme, did they change the speed limit for the race?

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iotar__ wrote:
SameSame wrote:
3jawchuck wrote:
That was my third thought after "ooops silly boy" and "damn baguette kerbs".
Could it be because of the new tyre regs, changing the dynamics just enough to lead to that sort of failure, possibly in conjunction with part age?
Definitely could be. Different pressures will produce different spring values for the system. Part age is tricky because fatigue life calculations will be very difficult. The part buckled which would normally happen under high axial loads and it didn't look like it was being loaded that heavily as you said, so best bet it was a series of unfortunate events that allowed that frequency to occur.
So now evil tyres are destroying suspensions? "Could be". Is it the one when 99% is 'could be something else' and 1% 'could be adjustments' to different tyre pressure in connection with 5 other factors but it's still 'definitely could be' :wink: ? Just because element exists and is talk of the moment.

"Different pressures will produce different spring values for the system. Part age is tricky because fatigue life calculations will be very difficult. " Why would it be very difficult with pressure X and not with pressure 0,8X? Pressure is constant, car parts are team's problem and responsibility. Why would be this theoretical old part with miscalculated age/fatigue/design on top of let's call them "forces outside of working range that destroy things" not solely responsible? The evidence: all the other cars acting fine in so many races with higher tyre pressure that varies with different tracks/tyre ranges and all the forces in the world.
I'm not blaming the tyres per se and I'm pretty sure Same Same isn't either, it's just a possibility that came to mind that if it was resonance related then it could have been assisted by the new rules. If it is so, the affected teams will have to adapt to it. Vibration is a sensitive thing and small alterations can bring a system into instability. If it was even that at all.

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Massa to start from pitlane with old front wing due to structural damage found in the new front wing

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Looks like that Hamilton tries to win his races each year with another gimmick. In 2014 it was pure speed and overtakes, last year it was winning as slow as possible and this year being nice to his tires.

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Outstanding driving by Rosberg! Go Nico Go!!!
Go Nico Go!!!

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Great strategy again for Ferrari

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wickedz50 wrote:Great strategy again for Ferrari
Yes....

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Pirelli does it again.

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Pirelli are absolutely rubbish.

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Well... He stretched His stint, but His laptime weren't that bad

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ripper wrote:Well... He stretched His stint, but His laptime weren't that bad
29 laps is nothing omg. His pace was better than everyone else apart from mercs, red bulls and kimi. Hamilton did only a few less on ultra soft. This is purely pireshit's own fault.

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What happened to wehrlein? Suddenly he was at the back?

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They should rename these tires: The Crapplies.....

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Juzh wrote:
ripper wrote:Well... He stretched His stint, but His laptime weren't that bad
29 laps is nothing omg. His pace was better than everyone else apart from mercs, red bulls and kimi. Hamilton did only a few less on ultra soft. This is purely pireshit's own fault.
There is a reason Hamilton (and everybody else) did a few less laps. Else the tire would explode. It isn't the first time Ferrari tried to stretch tire life beyond its limits.