Flexiwings 2025

[bauc]

McLaren and mercedes pushed for it not to be introduced immediately iirc

Because it would have implicated huge costs for the teams, in an era with budget limits and in time frame (January) where most of the teams have 95% of the car ready for pre season test and race 1 to 3

It costs more to have to design a wing for races 1-9 and 9-24 than it does to just accept the change for round 1 and make 1 wing

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

[AR3-GP]

Because it would have implicated huge costs for the teams, in an era with budget limits and in time frame (January) where most of the teams have 95% of the car ready for pre season test and race 1 to 3

It costs more to have to design a wing for races 1-9 and 9-24 than it does to just accept the change for round 1 and make 1 wing

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

How can this be? Stella has assured us that it's an insignificant change... Now they are making updates to fix issues caused by removing it? That doesn't seem insignificant...

[Cs98]

Because it would have implicated huge costs for the teams, in an era with budget limits and in time frame (January) where most of the teams have 95% of the car ready for pre season test and race 1 to 3

It costs more to have to design a wing for races 1-9 and 9-24 than it does to just accept the change for round 1 and make 1 wing

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

Giving up free performance for 1/3 of the season? Doubt that.

[bluechris]

It costs more to have to design a wing for races 1-9 and 9-24 than it does to just accept the change for round 1 and make 1 wing

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

How can this be? Stella has assured us that it's an insignificant change... Now they are making updates to fix issues caused by removing it? That doesn't seem insignificant...

We had heard this many times from many team leaders but history speaks. I hope this is not the case here but we will soon see.

[f1isgood]

Because it would have implicated huge costs for the teams, in an era with budget limits and in time frame (January) where most of the teams have 95% of the car ready for pre season test and race 1 to 3

It costs more to have to design a wing for races 1-9 and 9-24 than it does to just accept the change for round 1 and make 1 wing

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

Wait is the rumor that McLaren are running a compliant wing already?

[organic]

It costs more to have to design a wing for races 1-9 and 9-24 than it does to just accept the change for round 1 and make 1 wing

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

Wait is the rumor that McLaren are running a compliant wing already?

Hadn't heard that anywhere and would make little sense

[f1isgood]

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

Wait is the rumor that McLaren are running a compliant wing already?

Hadn't heard that anywhere and would make little sense

Okay thanks for confirming!

[organic]

Wait is the rumor that McLaren are running a compliant wing already?

Hadn't heard that anywhere and would make little sense

Okay thanks for confirming!

I'm not an arbiter of fact lol. I haven't confirmed anything

[_cerber1]

Hadn't heard that anywhere and would make little sense

It makes sense, you won't have to redo anything when the new directive comes into effect, your development will be linear.

[bauc]

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

Wait is the rumor that McLaren are running a compliant wing already?

Hadn't heard that anywhere and would make little sense

So you are saying a disturbed wake of the front wing cant make the rear end dance in certain conditions/corners? OMG I miss the good old days of this forum.

[Vanja #66]

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

Yes, this is obviously just 5mm deflection, you can barely even notice it

[Cs98]

Wait is the rumor that McLaren are running a compliant wing already?

Hadn't heard that anywhere and would make little sense

So you are saying a disturbed wake of the front wing cant make the rear end dance in certain conditions/corners? OMG I miss the good old days of this forum.

What he's probably saying is that they wouldn't sacrifice free performance for a large part of the season to satisfy a rule change that hasn't yet come into action. But I get that it's easier to go with the least charitable interpretation and follow it with unnecessary snark.

[bauc]

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

Yes, this is obviously just 5mm deflection, you can barely even notice it

5mm under the FIA test we all know that will never be the same as in the real world right?

[Rikhart]

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.

Yes, this is obviously just 5mm deflection, you can barely even notice it

5mm under the FIA test we all know that will never be the same as in the real world right?

I don't understand why the FIA don't just measure this during competition, maybe with some laser measuring tools in each car? I would be absolutely trivial to do, and would destroy this game of "hey, it's legal, it passed the test" and then you see massive, clearly not following rules movement on surfaces.

[_cerber1]

I don't understand why the FIA don't just measure this during competition, maybe with some laser measuring tools in each car? I would be absolutely trivial to do, and would destroy this game of "hey, it's legal, it passed the test" and then you see massive, clearly not following rules movement on surfaces.

And what tools have you given the teams to prohibit them from doing this? Don't forget that in a wind tunnel they use a scale model and a limited air flow speed. How do you propose that they control their elements at 300+ km/h?

Personally, I don't understand why anyone doesn't like flexible wings, before this was justified by the fact that the teams' budgets were unlimited, which would make them spend even more, now everything is limited, leave them alone.