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[hardingfv32]

Do other cars using the same exhaust layout exhibit the same traits?

Brian

[GrizzleBoy]

Do other cars using the same exhaust layout exhibit the same traits?

Brian

Ferraris "almost" similar layout suffered from traction issues in the beginning.

Red Bulls Sauber like exhausts weren't exactly all that.

Only difference is that other teams have actually spent some time developing their exhausts and experimenting between different layouts in order to learn what the benefits/compromises are.

McLaren tbh, have pretty much done nothing worth mentioning at the rear end of their car (or even the front tbh) for the longest time now. (Conversely, the very few things they have done, recently or not, has been copied by many other teams).

[N12ck]

Do other cars using the same exhaust layout exhibit the same traits?

Brian

Ferraris "almost" similar layout suffered from traction issues in the beginning.

Red Bulls Sauber like exhausts weren't exactly all that.

Only difference is that other teams have actually spent some time developing their exhausts and experimenting between different layouts in order to learn what the benefits/compromises are.

McLaren tbh, have pretty much done nothing worth mentioning at the rear end of their car (or even the front tbh) for the longest time now. (Conversely, the very few things they have done, recently or not, has been copied by many other teams).

this is a very unrealistic view, although it doesnt look like drastic changes, slight changes make massive differences, you may not notice these changes, but I assure you that Mclaren have had alot of updates, just you haven't noticed them as they are small refinements, you dont need massive overhauls to be quick, Mclaren dont need to change their exhaust, as it must work fine for them so far, so why change to something which may not work with your car design?

[Nando]

You mean like with the new nosecone?

[Owen.C93]

Do other cars using the same exhaust layout exhibit the same traits?

Brian

Ferraris "almost" similar layout suffered from traction issues in the beginning.

Red Bulls Sauber like exhausts weren't exactly all that.

Only difference is that other teams have actually spent some time developing their exhausts and experimenting between different layouts in order to learn what the benefits/compromises are.

McLaren tbh, have pretty much done nothing worth mentioning at the rear end of their car (or even the front tbh) for the longest time now. (Conversely, the very few things they have done, recently or not, has been copied by many other teams).

this is a very unrealistic view, although it doesnt look like drastic changes, slight changes make massive differences, you may not notice these changes, but I assure you that Mclaren have had alot of updates, just you haven't noticed them as they are small refinements, you dont need massive overhauls to be quick, Mclaren dont need to change their exhaust, as it must work fine for them so far, so why change to something which may not work with your car design?

It's still clear that they have had less big aero changes than any other team have done in the last few years, even those that were at the top. I'm not saying that they are a bad team because of it, or that they will fall behind. But it's an observation worth noting.

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[Nando]

Any rumors on parts for Silverstone?

I´m very interested to see if they will bring something different rather then just new front wing and rear wing.

[Holm86]

Any rumors on parts for Silverstone?

I´m very interested to see if they will bring something different rather then just new front wing and rear wing.

I seem to remember to have read that they will bring a large update to Silverstone. I believe it was somewhere in this thread.

[Nando]

Any rumors on parts for Silverstone?

I´m very interested to see if they will bring something different rather then just new front wing and rear wing.

I seem to remember to have read that they will bring a large update to Silverstone. I believe it was somewhere in this thread.

Ok i guess we´ll have to wait and see. Sucks that it´s 2 weeks between GP´s for most of the time.

[mozza_84]

Any rumors on parts for Silverstone?

I´m very interested to see if they will bring something different rather then just new front wing and rear wing.

I seem to remember to have read that they will bring a large update to Silverstone. I believe it was somewhere in this thread.

Ok i guess we´ll have to wait and see. Sucks that it´s 2 weeks between GP´s for most of the time.

i heard somewhere that they have a b-spec car crash tested and passed and are bringing it to silverstone. ugly step nose anyone [-o<

[N12ck]

whos expecting a step nose, and/or RBR style sidepods?

Nick

[mozza_84]

whos expecting a step nose, and/or RBR style sidepods?

Nick

cant remember which race it was but they were testing parts on jenson car that was seeing what jenson vision was like with a higher nose this was after the new front higher nose was introduced this part was removable but when sam micheals was asked about what was going on he stated it was for devolpment of the 2013 car so either this years or next where gonna see a higher front end at some point couldnt find a pic but it was covered on sky sports

[N12ck]

whos expecting a step nose, and/or RBR style sidepods?

Nick

cant remember which race it was but they were testing parts on jenson car that was seeing what jenson vision was like with a higher nose this was after the new front higher nose was introduced this part was removable but when sam micheals was asked about what was going on he stated it was for devolpment of the 2013 car so either this years or next where gonna see a higher front end at some point couldnt find a pic but it was covered on sky sports

the rules were said to be changed about the nose hump for next year, because they were 'ugly' I suspect maybe this year they will bring it in, I remember Jenson saying he couldn't see a thing when testing it

[mozza_84]

whos expecting a step nose, and/or RBR style sidepods?

Nick

cant remember which race it was but they were testing parts on jenson car that was seeing what jenson vision was like with a higher nose this was after the new front higher nose was introduced this part was removable but when sam micheals was asked about what was going on he stated it was for devolpment of the 2013 car so either this years or next where gonna see a higher front end at some point couldnt find a pic but it was covered on sky sports

the rules were said to be changed about the nose hump for next year, because they were 'ugly' I suspect maybe this year they will bring it in, I remember Jenson saying he couldn't see a thing when testing it

http://www1.skysports.com/formula1/gall ... y-in-barca

heres the proof i suspect your rite nick. i hope its a raised nose to allow more underneath and a super ddrs with a refined exhaust package

[N12ck]

It's just a guess but I have a hunch that they will go with a step nose, I remember watching the flying lap, and Paddy Lowe said Mclaren were surprised by the fact everyone had gone with a step nose, so I think they will go with a step nose this year at some point, (I might be wrong)

They tested visibility in monaco aswell