Vodafone McLaren MP4-27 Mercedes

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It strictly limits what you can have under the nose, but the small turning vanes that all the teams run are legal.

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I've simply deleted the bs about lottery numbers, special abilities, etc. If you don't have anything legitimate to ask or say about the car, keep it to yourself. We're not asking for much in order to keep the threads informative.
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bhallg2k wrote:How much can McLaren really gain from the added height of a stepped nose? And would that change be worth the fundamental shift in the car's dynamics that will result from the addition of a stepped nose?

They'll essentially be starting over with the MP4-27.
I made this point earlier in the thread. Unless they've spent the whole season to date in the wind tunnel redesigning the entire car, I'd be amazed if they could just bolt it on and gain performance.
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McLaren has brought the adjustable brake duct setup to the front bakes in Silverstone. via Ted Kravitz.

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I'm not sure if it's just my MK1 eyeballs that need recalibrating but the sidepods look to have a bit more undercut again?


edit: Never mind, having seen it from a few more angles I think I'm mistaken.

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n smikle wrote:It seems Some of them will be delayed till Germany due to manufacturing schedules. The big stuff which I heard will be for Silverstone are put off until Germany so there you go, I can't nail it all the time. :twisted:
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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:McLaren has brought the adjustable brake duct setup to the front bakes in Silverstone. via Ted Kravitz.
Did he mention the benefits?

Also Is it a solution Ferrari and red bull hav been using for many races now?
Just a fan's point of view

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bill shoe wrote:I think PhilipM has the right idea.

The lateral center of the car, particularly the T-tray front, drags near the ground with little or no clearance. However, by rule the sidepods are at least 50 mm above the ground. This creates lateral space on both sides of the car between the low center section and the tire tracks. This space extends the full length of the car.

Commercial car lifts are available with profiles as low as 100 mm. Surely F1 can do 50 mm or less. It simply has to be split into two parts to clear the center section.
Remembering that the car is still turning as it enters the pit box ;)

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Viscount wrote:Hey, long time lurker here finally decided to join the site. Anyway, came across this pic and it looks like McLaren may be testing a stepped nose at Silverstone.

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Yes, that nose does seem to have a step transition.
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beelsebob wrote: Remembering that the car is still turning as it enters the pit box ;)
Wouldn't matter if you used a hydraulic pillow...

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Its hard to tell without more pictures, Neale said 7 or 8 updates have been brought to Silverstone apparently.
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PhillipM wrote:
beelsebob wrote: Remembering that the car is still turning as it enters the pit box ;)
Wouldn't matter if you used a hydraulic pillow...
What I would say is that surely having someone raise the car from the side would be more practical than raising it from the front. For a starter, you wouldn't have to wait for the trolley jack man to lower the car and run out of the way and would also do a-way with the worries of running over the trolley jack man.

I would still keep the trolley on standby in case he overrun the pitbox (or jack) but seriously can't see why no one has thought about it.

Another crazy solution would be a jack built in the car (ok maybe im being silly now) but having a very light bottle jack fwd and aft of the car and then using the onboard hydraulics to up and lower itself.

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Owen.C93 wrote:Something is spring loaded on the brake cooling.
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Isn't there less thread on the wheelnut than before? Or has it been like this in previous races as well?

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jason.parker.86 wrote:
PhillipM wrote:
beelsebob wrote: Remembering that the car is still turning as it enters the pit box ;)
Wouldn't matter if you used a hydraulic pillow...
What I would say is that surely having someone raise the car from the side would be more practical than raising it from the front. For a starter, you wouldn't have to wait for the trolley jack man to lower the car and run out of the way and would also do a-way with the worries of running over the trolley jack man.

I would still keep the trolley on standby in case he overrun the pitbox (or jack) but seriously can't see why no one has thought about it.

Another crazy solution would be a jack built in the car (ok maybe im being silly now) but having a very light bottle jack fwd and aft of the car and then using the onboard hydraulics to up and lower itself.
Don;t they already use pneumatic jacks built into the cars in the Indycar series ? and all they do when they pit is connect an air supply to a port on the car & hey presto ! it's up in the air !

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There's no room or weight available to pack a jack in the car, and connecting the lines would take longer than the front jack.