Was 0.3 L of fuel + KERS enough to make it back to the pits?

[megz]

Why an 18,000rpm limit? Why 4 slick tyres? Why no traction control? The rules are arbitrary and any reasoning behind them is the same. What is important is that the rules are the same for all competitors.

[Ray]

Why an 18,000rpm limit? Why 4 slick tyres? Why no traction control? The rules are arbitrary and any reasoning behind them is the same. What is important is that the rules are the same for all competitors.

Easy dude. All I was asking is why the amount of fuel to be tested has to be such a large quantity. Surely any test that needs to be run can be done with a much smaller amount of fuel.

[PlatinumZealot]

Why an 18,000rpm limit? Why 4 slick tyres? Why no traction control? The rules are arbitrary and any reasoning behind them is the same. What is important is that the rules are the same for all competitors.

Easy dude. All I was asking is why the amount of fuel to be tested has to be such a large quantity. Surely any test that needs to be run can be done with a much smaller amount of fuel.

Just a standard rounded number for science experiments. You know, just easier to work with. The other day I sent some beverage samples to Germany to be tested by Krones and they required a one litre sample for probably the same arbitrary reason. I sent them 2 litres to be safe.

[ParanoiD]

Why an 18,000rpm limit? Why 4 slick tyres? Why no traction control? The rules are arbitrary and any reasoning behind them is the same. What is important is that the rules are the same for all competitors.

Easy dude. All I was asking is why the amount of fuel to be tested has to be such a large quantity. Surely any test that needs to be run can be done with a much smaller amount of fuel.

Just a standard rounded number for science experiments. You know, just easier to work with. The other day I sent some beverage samples to Germany to be tested by Krones and they required a one litre sample for probably the same arbitrary reason. I sent them 2 litres to be safe.

Thank God they don't require that much for a blood test
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[Ray]

Exactly! If 5cc's of blood is enough to detect all manner of things, surely Formula 1 with all it's superior tech and engineering can do the same (if not better). It really shouldn't be a whole liter of fuel to do a simple comparison with currently used fuel and the approved formula submitted at the beginning of the season.

[lotus7]

Why an 18,000rpm limit? Why 4 slick tyres? Why no traction control? The rules are arbitrary and any reasoning behind them is the same. What is important is that the rules are the same for all competitors.

Easy dude. All I was asking is why the amount of fuel to be tested has to be such a large quantity. Surely any test that needs to be run can be done with a much smaller amount of fuel.

I suppose "leftovers" from the 1 liter is kept for verification purposes. Like in sport drug sampling - always have a spare ready for a second test

[megz]

Why an 18,000rpm limit? Why 4 slick tyres? Why no traction control? The rules are arbitrary and any reasoning behind them is the same. What is important is that the rules are the same for all competitors.

Easy dude. All I was asking is why the amount of fuel to be tested has to be such a large quantity. Surely any test that needs to be run can be done with a much smaller amount of fuel.

I didn't mean to come over as aggressive - my apologies - what I wanted to point out is that there is not necessarily a good reason for the rule except that that is it.

[Paul]

.1L goes to laboratory, .9L go to Bernie's Merc- have you seen the gas prices recently?! Outrageous!

[adrianjordan]

what I wanted to point out is that there is not necessarily a good reason for the rule except that that is it.

Where the FiA is involved I'd go so far as to say that there is not usually a good reason for the rule....

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Re sample size.

It is possible to have 2 different fuels in a tank. Is it not possible to make the illegitimate fuel "float" above that of the legitmate fuel? Or vice versa?

Hence why I think they make it 1 litre. More chance of traces to be found for any illegitimate fuel.

[Nando]

Re sample size.

It is possible to have 2 different fuels in a tank. Is it not possible to make the illegitimate fuel "float" above that of the legitmate fuel? Or vice versa?

Hence why I think they make it 1 litre. More chance of traces to be found for any illegitimate fuel.

How would you take advantage of the "floating fuel"?
You would have to use up all the normal fuel first and then when you leave a sample it would be all of the illegal fuel plus or minus some droplets of the legal one.

[Gatecrasher]

Re sample size.

It is possible to have 2 different fuels in a tank. Is it not possible to make the illegitimate fuel "float" above that of the legitmate fuel? Or vice versa?

Hence why I think they make it 1 litre. More chance of traces to be found for any illegitimate fuel.

Google BAR fuel cell... can't remember if collector tanks are still legal ? also it would be easy to have multiple pickups. It would be easy to change engine maps for different fuels but getting away with this would be highly unlikely.

[PlatinumZealot]

Collector tanks? If Mclaren had any sense that should have implemented one! haha.
Maybe a one way valve built into it so the whole tank can be drained from it, but the fuel pump cannot draw from it.