Schumacher/Rosberg - the 2010 season unfolds

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i´d think Brawn hoped for michael performing the required miracle,perhaps.that would explain a lot.
But obviously not even he can win with what the car is like on saturdays.give him a half sniff at a win and he delivers ,no question.
Don´t expect him to fail under pressure as was often made up in british press ,the contrary is true.He does his errors in unchallenged moments..
I feel for Brawn as they are at a loss to explain why the car does not perform when required.and be sure Michael will ask these questions a day long when doors are shut...
rosberg venting his frustration in public..michael taking exit brackley and discuss with the boss....thats not only Ross

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Both Brawn and Schumacher are focussing on the job. They need a better basic designed car next year and seem to determined to use 2010 as a building year.
Schumacher wrote:I’m not here with a short-term view, that I just look from race-to-race and have to have a single result. From my point-of-view, we have a three-year programme. I can handle the pain. I’ve been around long enough and I’ve had to deal with much worse pain, but this is part of the process in a way and part of the joy from a different point-of-view.

Obviously we thought we would be closer and in a better situation this year, but that has not been the case so we have to understand [and] work our way through it as we did in the past. That’s what I’m here for. Once the progress comes, which I’m sure it will, then you get rewarded. I know what’s going on and I care only about motorsport, what is real and what I know and have to worry about. Once we can solve our problems, then there is reason to believe we can do much better, and even win races this year.
Brawn wrote:There are no discussions going on – we’re very happy with Michael. We have to sort the car out – that’s the main issue. We’re confident that when we get the technical package together, our drivers will succeed. It’s a curious thing, but it’s the pain that makes the pleasure so much better. Having been in this business so long, you know you will have days and periods like this.

It’s impossible to be consistently at the top and consistently fastest. You can’t do it, so these are the periods when you have to show your strengths – but it is a pain we put ourselves through because that’s the nature of the business, and if you can’t handle this pain then you shouldn’t be involved.
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true words by both .
nevertheless I´m sure the pressure is on the kettle as much as possible now..

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Bahrain =>Rosberg
Austrailia=>Rosberg
Malaysia =>Rosberg
China =>Rosberg
Spain =>MS
Monaco =>Rosberg
Turkey =>MS
Canada =>Rosberg
Valencia =>Rosberg

Rosberg up 7:2

It is actually atiny bit closer than that number but not much, Rosberg has easily handled MS this year and if it continues thru next year MS should give it a rest.

I think Nick could have done a better job thusfar than MS has, but he would not have brought in the money or interest that MS has.

Rosberg still makes mistakes, and may have thrown away a win in China, but he is clearly up in the top of the second tier of drivers, below Vettle but next to Button, Kubica & Webber

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Bahrain - solid first race after 3 years
Australia - ahead of Nico before being punted off by Alonso
Malaysia - His wheel fell off after making a decent start
China - Poor race by his standards but he destroyed his tyres not having used modern inters before
Spain - crackin race and comfortably beat Nico
Monaco - Beat Nico comfortably
Turkey - Beat Nico comforably
Canada - beating Nico comforatably until a puncture
Europe - beating Nico comfortably until pit red light

Race by race performance tells a different story to the points. Dogged by bad luck and a car that has fallen well short of all expectations.

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andrew wrote:Bahrain - solid first race after 3 years
Australia - ahead of Nico before being punted off by Alonso
Malaysia - His wheel fell off after making a decent start
China - Poor race by his standards but he destroyed his tyres not having used modern inters before
Spain - crackin race and comfortably beat Nico
Monaco - Beat Nico comfortably
Turkey - Beat Nico comforably
Canada - beating Nico comforatably until a puncture
Europe - beating Nico comfortably until pit red light

Race by race performance tells a different story to the points. Dogged by bad luck and a car that has fallen well short of all expectations.
+1 All i can see is :
lack of qualy speed
car letting him down
pit startegy letting him down
brilliant starts
veryaggressive fighting fo position
very cool and comited defense -ask button

he was reallystruggling with the inters,thats true

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He just doesn't have the same luck like he did in his first career....

MS was a good driver and he was also very lucky in many of those iffy moments.

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andrew wrote:Bahrain - solid first race after 3 years
Australia - ahead of Nico before being punted off by Alonso
Malaysia - His wheel fell off after making a decent start
China - Poor race by his standards but he destroyed his tyres not having used modern inters before
Spain - crackin race and comfortably beat Nico
Monaco - Beat Nico comfortably
Turkey - Beat Nico comforably
Canada - beating Nico comforatably until a puncture
Europe - beating Nico comfortably until pit red light
Nico outqualled him in Monaco and was only behind him because of the stupid staggered grids putting the higher qualifier on the dirty side, And Rosberg didnt cheat and so therefore finished ahead and took the weekend.

MS was his own worst enemy in Canada and deserved a penalty for that weekend,or the next.

Like I said 7:2 for Rosberg, MS is looking desperate out there... maybe someone should open a thread asking how desperate
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RacingManiac wrote:He just doesn't have the same luck like he did in his first career....

MS was a good driver and he was also very lucky in many of those iffy moments.
I don´t see it like that..his Jordan stopped after not even half a lap on his debut in F1..
and he had quite some difficult times in his career at Ferrari with that horrible
Barnard car in the first year..and the accident in silverstone ..he will get over this as well.
Let the doubters write him off ,he does not care.The moment he for himself has the
perception he could not win anymore ,it would be over inthe same moment..he is not Graham Hill or Rene Arnoux..or Coulthard...

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ISLAMATRON wrote:
andrew wrote:Bahrain - solid first race after 3 years
Australia - ahead of Nico before being punted off by Alonso
Malaysia - His wheel fell off after making a decent start
China - Poor race by his standards but he destroyed his tyres not having used modern inters before
Spain - crackin race and comfortably beat Nico
Monaco - Beat Nico comfortably
Turkey - Beat Nico comforably
Canada - beating Nico comforatably until a puncture
Europe - beating Nico comfortably until pit red light
Nico outqualled him in Monaco and was only behind him because of the stupid staggered grids putting the higher qualifier on the dirty side, And Rosberg didnt cheat and so therefore finished ahead and took the weekend.

MS was his own worst enemy in Canada and deserved a penalty for that weekend,or the next.

Like I said 7:2 for Rosberg, MS is looking desperate out there... maybe someone should open a thread asking how desperate
I thought you said point don't matter when we were discussing Hamilton but they do when it is Schumacher? Strange that....

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I just don't get how many races he needs before he can get back to his ways of at least beating his teammate.

Schumi might be one of those drivers who only really shines when he gets to test for thousands of miles in a car before being able to actually race it quick.

Rosberg is looking more and more golden every race. It kind of makes you wonder if Kazu was all that bad, or maybe most drivers look bad next to Rosberg.

I've never like Schumi, but I've never doubted his talent, until this year.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

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There is nothing to choose between Schumacher and Roseberg in terms of pace. It is the joke qualifying (I still miss the 1 hour, 12 laps format) and the car that is not as good as it looked in testing that is the problem. Next year will be different if Merc get their act together.

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andrew wrote:There is nothing to choose between Schumacher and Roseberg in terms of pace. It is the joke qualifying (I still miss the 1 hour, 12 laps format) and the car that is not as good as it looked in testing that is the problem. Next year will be different if Merc get their act together.
That's absolutely untrue. Most races Rosberg has had a 0.2-0.4s advantage throughout practice, qualifying and the race. Schumacher is not at all comfortable with the car and the driving style required to get the most out of it, to the extent that former racing drivers like Brundle commentate on how he is driving tentatively and doesn't have confidence, with him reacting to the car rather than predicting what it will do.

I don't doubt that he will improve but it won't be until Brawn sorts the car out (which I doubt will be this season), and I don't believe he will ever get back to his previous peak performance. Maybe he'll get close, but he simply is not as quick as he used to be and no driver of his age would be.

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Look at the race by race breakdown above. It tells the true story. Sure Schumacher is not as fast over 1 lap but over a race he is, when the car works.

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you can all have your views .
talent or loss of it,like or dislike,being tentative or not.
Schumacher has not dominated rosberg ,this is fact.
He has scored less than half of the points under the new regs.
the car/team is not a winning combo right now ,be it for rosberg or schumacher.
Schumacher is by far more value to the team,with all the controversies and hype surounding his comeback it is money well spent.
rosberg has raised his value considerably.