2016 Grand Prix of Mexico - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 28-30 October

[basti313]

The irony of Hamilton fans praying for reliability problems. It's only sabotage if it happens to Hamilton . I'm going to counter it strongly and hope Rosberg gets a win at the next race

I don't think it's just Hamilton fans. Rosberg has been metronomic this season when it comes to accumulating points so, if he wins the WDC, it's a deserved victory. But it's not particularly exciting watching the WDC-elect spend five/six races driving around with his feet up on the monocoque, cocktail in one hand and lazily waving to the crowd with the other.

It's not Rosberg's fault, he's doing the logical thing of driving sensibly and taking no risks ... but it's not as exciting as if it was going to go down to the wire. I'd much rather Rosberg suffered a DNF (or equivalent points gap closing scenario) so that the gap was 6 points or less at the last race. Even if he crushed Hamilton in every session of the last weekend, at least the weekend would matter. Right now, the only competition left is Force India vs Williams and Force India is faster and ahead so 'competition' is perhaps too strong a word.

Really??? We can see Britney and the other girl "driving around with his feet up on the monocoque, cocktail in one hand and lazily waving to the crowd with the other" since three years in every race as one is leading and the other one has no chance to overtake. Especially if Britney is behind. Now you state, we would have excitement if Rosber DNFs??? In which world are you living?

It rather looks to me a bit poor as the ones who are praying the whole season for Ros to get crushed now hope for a DNF to make the championship exciting.

[smiley]

[Vasconia]

The irony of Hamilton fans praying for reliability problems. It's only sabotage if it happens to Hamilton . I'm going to counter it strongly and hope Rosberg gets a win at the next race

I don't think it's just Hamilton fans. Rosberg has been metronomic this season when it comes to accumulating points so, if he wins the WDC, it's a deserved victory. But it's not particularly exciting watching the WDC-elect spend five/six races driving around with his feet up on the monocoque, cocktail in one hand and lazily waving to the crowd with the other.

It's not Rosberg's fault, he's doing the logical thing of driving sensibly and taking no risks ... but it's not as exciting as if it was going to go down to the wire. I'd much rather Rosberg suffered a DNF (or equivalent points gap closing scenario) so that the gap was 6 points or less at the last race. Even if he crushed Hamilton in every session of the last weekend, at least the weekend would matter. Right now, the only competition left is Force India vs Williams and Force India is faster and ahead so 'competition' is perhaps too strong a word.

Its his style like Kimi´s style is not making great overtakes. You can prefer more spectacular drivers but there are different ways to achieve the same purpose. Nico has been doing a great job, being fast but taking care of his car. It was like that in 2010, 2011 and so on. Its not a coincidence that he has always been the best in the team in terms of reliability.

[Vasconia]

And how did Hamilton not get a penalty if Verstappen did? Hamilton did the exact same thing.

The VSC nullified any advantage he might have gained.

He had slowed down sufficiently to let the pack rejoin him before the VSC was deployed. I believe he had only two car lengths on Rosberg and four on Verstappen at that point. I assume he'll have received a warning for corner cutting though.

I dont understand what is going on with Nico. One thing is to be cautious but he is going much slower than in the previous races. He is playing with fire because Vestappen put him under a gret pressure. His defense was great but really, cant he go faster?

I think he was fortunate that one of the two overtakes was at the first corner of the first lap. Normally, if the car on the inside pushes you wide on exit you either back off and slot in behind or you accept going off the track and struggling to rejoin. In this case, Rosberg instead chose to cut across the corner and floored it, gaining a two car-length lead on a car that had overtaken him. I think it was rightly ruled as a first-lap racing incident but it wasn't great defending. The only way Verstappen could've made his overtake stick against him was to join him on his off-road excursion and that's not right.

Well Max didnt give him enough space, he was was forced to leave the track and at least he rejoined in the best possible way.

[Godius]

[GPR-A duplicate2]

I'm going to counter it strongly and hope Rosberg gets a win at the next race

Oh God save us all... RedNEO is going to strongly counter a failure to Britney and set the Mercedes paradise on fire. [-o< [-o< [-o<

I can't wait for this moment to come any sooner.

Come to think of it, Nico's championship is so fragile that one DNF can make it vapor. On the other hand, there is another driver who has weathered way more than that and still in with a shot. That says it all.

[sosic2121]

Well this is just a farce now.

Vettel wouldn't have come under attack from Ricciardo if Verstappen had given up the place - not in the way it happened,m. For him to be given double the penalty of the person causing the incident... the same person who week after week got away with whatever he wanted...the whole thing defies belief...

They know the net result when they give out these penalties. I don't think any penalty was merited but by giving a 10 second as opposed to a 5 for Verstappen is just unbelievable. Why even bother showing up for the rest of the season? Waste of time since you can completely game the system as happened this race.

+1

[iotar__]

Vettel got his penalty mostly for shouting at FIA clique. How else can you explain that they noticed his driving after the race and ignored during? Slightly less dirty than Verstappen's previous ones (no investigation), more like Ham-Ricc Monaco. Bad move but zero consistency.

Quality of driving at 2 top teams wasted another race. Coulthard is indeed bad. Every RB failure is turned into some happy spin. MV makes a bad attempt, outbrakes himself basically ending the race - "they were again close". No, they were not close enough at any stage.

- Hamilton: pretending he didn't gain at the start. When he lost it under braking Rosberg was close and slightly more outside (more speed to carry), clear benefit from not slowing down on top of later braking which caused the whole situation. Not for Coulthard of course, for him it was as if he was 20 s in front not 2 m. Let's hope FIA's preferential treatment will not affect WDC

[sosic2121]

There was a car that impeded NR while lapping which led to MV dive bombing NR at turn 4. That car could have backed off on the main straight but chose not to defended into the turn 1 complex and did not make it easy on the runup to turn 4.

Who was this? why wasn't he penalized? Was it Sainz?

It seems RB drivers can get away with everything these days...

[Andres125sx]

From what I´m reading it´s obvious some people didn´t notice last rule clarification from FIA in october 22nd (the week before Mexico GP), so I´ll post it here for you:

Charlie Whiting has now informed teams that any change of direction under braking which results in another driver having to take evasive action will be considered abnormal and hence potentially dangerous to other drivers

http://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headl ... uvres.html

This basically means what Verstappen has been doing is not allowe anymore. Vettel did exactly the same next week to the clarification, so he obviously deserve a penalty

[Andres125sx]

There was a car that impeded NR while lapping which led to MV dive bombing NR at turn 4. That car could have backed off on the main straight but chose not to defended into the turn 1 complex and did not make it easy on the runup to turn 4.

Who was this? why wasn't he penalized? Was it Sainz?

It seems RB drivers can get away with everything these days...

Where have you been this weekend?

Both STR drivers got several 5 seconds penalties, and Verstappen got another 5 seconds penalty too, so 3 of 4 red bull drivers got penalties this weekend

[Wynters]

Really??? We can see Britney and the other girl "driving around with his feet up on the monocoque, cocktail in one hand and lazily waving to the crowd with the other" since three years in every race as one is leading and the other one has no chance to overtake. Especially if Britney is behind. Now you state, we would have excitement if Rosber DNFs??? In which world are you living?

It rather looks to me a bit poor as the ones who are praying the whole season for Ros to get crushed now hope for a DNF to make the championship exciting.

Are you really saying that it's more interesting watching a meaningless race where final places are irrelevant than watching a championship battle? Because that's specifically what you are saying.

Personally, I don't care if it's Rosberg vs Hamilton, Vettel vs Alonso or Gutierrez vs Nasr, I much prefer a Grand Prix to have a point to it. But I guess it's a good thing that there are people who enjoyed those riveting Schumacher/Vettel/Hamilton seasons where the WDC/WCC was wrapped up not long after the midseason break, so... fair enough, each to their own.

For me, just from recent years, the last races of 2007, 2008, 2010 and 2014 all had an excitement about them (particularly 2010). 2015? I don't even remember anything about it except Rosberg won pretty comfortably.

since three years in every race as one is leading and the other one has no chance to overtake

I'm sure that you are 100% correct but I've a nagging feeling that a Merc has probably overtaken another Merc at some point in the last three years, no? Maybe I'm remembering it wrong?

[Konpattsh]

Can someone point this year when a driver has been able to catch Verstapen and pass him whitout drama happening?

And also on vettel comment it's FOM who choose to put those hard words on live feed. They need to filter and use only what is not bad for the sport... Up to now they not diffusing all radio during races but they choose only what can bring dramas. But they choose what they want for example Hamilton and Rosberg collided in spain nothing was live on how they react when touched... I dont know if someone has heard bottas or massa or button or guttierez or ocon or wherlein... They've been turning around on 71 laps whitout even on word???

[gillfoto]

Well this is just a farce now.

Vettel wouldn't have come under attack from Ricciardo if Verstappen had given up the place - not in the way it happened,m. For him to be given double the penalty of the person causing the incident... the same person who week after week got away with whatever he wanted...the whole thing defies belief...

They know the net result when they give out these penalties. I don't think any penalty was merited but by giving a 10 second as opposed to a 5 for Verstappen is just unbelievable. Why even bother showing up for the rest of the season? Waste of time since you can completely game the system as happened this race.

+1

2016 has seen a lot of driver frustration with Charlie Whiting and the FIA F1 2016 Rule Book.
Seb represents the tip of an Iceberg with the F1 drivers in his expletive outburst, ( I agree with your comments ). I would like to see Ferrari lodge an Appeal with the FIA; we can't have Red Bull running the show.

[WaikeCU]

Truley the lowest hour of F1 ever. (maybe apart from indy 2005 )

You forgot Spa 2008. A titan battle on track and who gets the win? Massa.