2014 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona

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Did you not watch Ham's final lap, he was on the ragged edge!
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djos wrote:Did you not watch Ham's final lap, he was on the ragged edge!
You think? I saw his pole lap as the only non-ragged lap he actually did. He finally managed to wait long enough to get on the throttle.

Sky's claim was that tomorrow the track will be closer to P1/2 than P3/Q, so it may well all come towards HAM anyway.

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beelsebob wrote:
djos wrote:Did you not watch Ham's final lap, he was on the ragged edge!
You think? I saw his pole lap as the only non-ragged lap he actually did. He finally managed to wait long enough to get on the throttle.

Sky's claim was that tomorrow the track will be closer to P1/2 than P3/Q, so it may well all come towards HAM anyway.
there was plenty of correction and slight "but wiggles" on his hot lap, he was imo fully on the limit.
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beelsebob wrote:
djos wrote:Did you not watch Ham's final lap, he was on the ragged edge!
You think? I saw his pole lap as the only non-ragged lap he actually did. He finally managed to wait long enough to get on the throttle.

Sky's claim was that tomorrow the track will be closer to P1/2 than P3/Q, so it may well all come towards HAM anyway.
Yea in that case, it's Ham racing into the distance unless Rosberg jumps him at the start, which I certainly hope doesn't happen. And Bob can I just say how unfair it is that the British have sky and bbc covering f1 with one of those being entirely reserved for f1 and we have to contend with Nbc' s lousy coverage littered with ads. Sorry everyone else for the rant.

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Multi21 wrote:And Bob can I just say how unfair it is that the British have sky and bbc covering f1 with one of those being entirely reserved for f1 and we have to contend with Nbc' s lousy coverage littered with ads. Sorry everyone else for the rant.
S'funny but we used to have free-to-air full coverage of all of the races from the BBC and then they sold out to Sky and now we only get half of the races live free-to-air. And we thought that was unfair too! Sounds like we have it better than many others.
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I've got a small question: yesterday, when Ham was running his first flying lap in Q3, Vet stopped. I heard on radio that Ham asked Vet something and Vet said sorry to him due to his mechanical failure which messed Ham's lap up.

Correct me if Im wrong but I've just wondered why two drivers can talk to each other #-o I think they can just talk to people on the pit wall. Is that right ? If they're able to do so, how ?
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Just_a_fan wrote:
Multi21 wrote:And Bob can I just say how unfair it is that the British have sky and bbc covering f1 with one of those being entirely reserved for f1 and we have to contend with Nbc' s lousy coverage littered with ads. Sorry everyone else for the rant.
S'funny but we used to have free-to-air full coverage of all of the races from the BBC and then they sold out to Sky and now we only get half of the races live free-to-air. And we thought that was unfair too! Sounds like we have it better than many others.

Yea definitely, we get fp2, qualifying, and the race covered. And there's all sorts of ads every other 5 laps. It's like watching American football here, they have grasped that an f1 race is continuous. Really not doing well to expose the sport here at all.

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djos wrote:
beelsebob wrote:
djos wrote:Did you not watch Ham's final lap, he was on the ragged edge!
You think? I saw his pole lap as the only non-ragged lap he actually did. He finally managed to wait long enough to get on the throttle.

Sky's claim was that tomorrow the track will be closer to P1/2 than P3/Q, so it may well all come towards HAM anyway.
there was plenty of correction and slight "but wiggles" on his hot lap, he was imo fully on the limit.
He made a mistake in Turn 10 as well when he locked the rears under breaking, but he was only ~1 tenth slower than Rosberg in that sector.

Btw it was raining earlier in Barcelona!

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Multi21 wrote:
beelsebob wrote:
djos wrote:Did you not watch Ham's final lap, he was on the ragged edge!
You think? I saw his pole lap as the only non-ragged lap he actually did. He finally managed to wait long enough to get on the throttle.

Sky's claim was that tomorrow the track will be closer to P1/2 than P3/Q, so it may well all come towards HAM anyway.
Yea in that case, it's Ham racing into the distance unless Rosberg jumps him at the start, which I certainly hope doesn't happen. And Bob can I just say how unfair it is that the British have sky and bbc covering f1 with one of those being entirely reserved for f1 and we have to contend with Nbc' s lousy coverage littered with ads. Sorry everyone else for the rant.
There are plenty of websites where you could see Sky F1 livestream nonlinear for free ... you just have to google it :)
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The track is really slippery...

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Some cars in GP3 are now changing to wets.

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I don't think RB10 has the biggest downforce as Lewis said. .. in China both he and Nico managed to keep their tyres longer then anybody else and more of that they have had the same times (or even better ones) in the twisty part of the circuit ... so this means they have the biggest DF or they were running in the safest mode for the tyre ... or it's the case of a front limited circuit which was playing in their hands?
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Multi21 wrote: Yea definitely, we get fp2, qualifying, and the race covered. And there's all sorts of ads every other 5 laps. It's like watching American football here, they have grasped that an f1 race is continuous. Really not doing well to expose the sport here at all.
That's the state of broadcasting here in the US. Unless you get the "premium" channels and they don't carry many sports. My guess is the premium channels get outbid on the more popular sports by the reg channels because the networks know they can ask the world in advertising fees and get it. Full episodes of the true Top Gear takes 1:40 to show in the states. Shows you just how much commercial time they jam in. The over the air stuff here is free though, we don't pay any fees for that. Either way they get you.

Sorry for OT post.

To get back on topic, I agree with those of you who have been lamenting the fact that once again we have a season without competition. This may be the worst of the last 5/6 years. At least the other seasons had periods where there was some question as to who would prevail. Now we know it will be either Hamilton or Niko. Unless they get a double DNF and that doesn't really happen anymore. I think most of us thought there would be a lot of DNFs at this point, and there have been some, but it hasn't much worse than previous years.

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F.Massa wrote:I've got a small question: yesterday, when Ham was running his first flying lap in Q3, Vet stopped. I heard on radio that Ham asked Vet something and Vet said sorry to him due to his mechanical failure which messed Ham's lap up.

Correct me if Im wrong but I've just wondered why two drivers can talk to each other #-o I think they can just talk to people on the pit wall. Is that right ? If they're able to do so, how ?
They can only talk to their own team on the pit wall. It was just coincidence that they both spoke on the radio about the incident around the same time and that Vet's comment sounded like a response to Ham's. It wasn't. Vet was just throwing an apology out there because he knew he'd compromised Ham's lap.

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Guys i need your advice because i didn't watch last 2 races and i don't know exactly where teams are atm. Did Lotus solved their problems? I want to pick Raikkonen on Head-to-Head with Romain. I see that Lotus in top 6 after Qual but did they have pace to fight with ferrari? or to finish the race?