PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025, 03:30
mzso wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 18:32
Seanspeed wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 22:36
When you're dismissing that 86% of a 40,000 sample size of F1 fans said that they care about this stuff, you will clearly dismiss ANY data point ever as unrepresentative, simply out of convenience of argument.
This feels like plain denial of reality. Once again, it's reasonable to say that most F1 fans aren't gonna cry about the current noise of the cars, but it's not the same thing as saying that F1 fans dont care about it at all or at the very least wouldn't prefer better sounding F1 cars. I think it's basically common sense that most would. It seems so obvious that I even wonder if arguing otherwise is being done out of sheer contrarianism than anything else.
Why would I need to consider a statistic from an extremely biased sample? Based on what WardenOfTheNorth said (which you conveniently ignored), it's even more biased than I initially expected.
The fact is it bears no implication on F1 viewers as a whole. Pointing to meaningless statistics and air-pulled "common sense" and "obvious "only showcases your bias, nothing else.
Would a majority prefer V8/V10? We don't know and that's certain. I expect even if it's the case, the margin would be far more modest.
Is the sample extremely biased compared to what? What do you as an unbiased sample?
You would have to do another survey asking all fans say netfilx + website + forum + fans at the race + youtube + F1 TV if they care about the engine noise and the engine technology, then you filter those out and ask them the question on the engine.
With that said, I think the Fans who read "The race" would have a large overlap with the fans who care about the F1 engine sound and the type of engine.
What do you mean biased compared to what. Compared to an unbiased sample. In data collection you have bias. It is not compared to another thing. It simply is.
A survey conducted on a social media outlet other about F1 is always going to be biased because it requires that the respondent cares enough about F1 to have engaged with that social media channel, then they have to have a strong enough opinion to respond. It is an accepted norm in any kind of market research that you will get more responses from people with the strongest opinions, which are often not the status quo.
So this sample has inherent bias.
To get a less biased sample you would need to cover multiple channels, including the official F1 social media channels, major broadcasters and any other channels that might get results.
Global F1 viewership per race last year was estimated to be in the region of what, 80 million? The survey got 40,000 responses and so represents the views of less than 1% of viewers. Probably the most engaged viewers at that.
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