I doubt we'll see DQs over this, the most I'd expect is a 5 place grid drop at the next race.Just_a_fan wrote:The result is up in the air - stewards looking at several drivers (including both McLarens and Webber) for not slowing sufficiently in the yellow flag zone. Looks like Alonso might get his podium points after all...
they showed things that really didn't matter for far too long on numerous occasions throug out the race, even in the end they showed Massas car being towed.. and then him walking through the pitlane, or KOVas car for two minutes, command stands...beelsebob wrote:What would you have liked to see more of? I got everything I wanted to for the most part. The only time I got frustrated was in the first pit stops, where they showed the stops, even though Hamilton was overtaking on track.FrukostScones wrote:are you trolling or just undemanding?andrew wrote:What was wrong with it? Showed the racing at the front and the midfield action and I could follow the race quite easily.
Agreed, Button's race was quiet, but a great job.ringo wrote:We just had a great race and we're talking about DQs?![]()
Redbull has too much downforce. Hamilton said after qualifying that they have 30+ points more, judging where they open the DRS in the last turn.
There was no way hamilton was going to get vettel, even without kers.
Good effort by him still. His best chance came right when Karthikenen blocked him.
The tyres were more in Mclaren's favour then.
Nice race by button too.
So much for Brundles driver of the day!beelsebob wrote:So... Hamilton, Button, Webber and Algesuari, not slowing down for waved yellows... 20 second penalty each?
If that were the case it would have no effect on the outcome, maybe they'll penalise more?
I'm not sure I see that driving fast past some yellows makes your drive suddenly not a great one.andrew wrote:So much for Brundles driver of the day!beelsebob wrote:So... Hamilton, Button, Webber and Algesuari, not slowing down for waved yellows... 20 second penalty each?
If that were the case it would have no effect on the outcome, maybe they'll penalise more?![]()
beelsebob wrote:Yep, surprised he didn't do the same thing as Hamilton and stay out for a good few laps... That said, I'm surprised Hamilton didn't stay out for an extra 4/5 laps on his last set of softs... Probably would have dropped 3/4 seconds by doing it, but would have had far fresher hards... Maybe enough to get past?jamsbong wrote:Another note about Alonso. It seems that Ferrari have not learnt their lesson from Abu Dhabi last year. Remember Ferrari childishly reaction to Webber's pitstop, it seems that Ferrari reaction to Vettel's 2nd stop (on hindsight) has been costly.
Bit of a beginners mistake though.beelsebob wrote:I'm not sure I see that driving fast past some yellows makes your drive suddenly not a great one.
Eh, Sector 3 was where Hamilton was making up all his time. The issue was purely traction out of the last turn, with a bit more traction, he might have been in the slip stream half way down the last straight.ringo wrote:beelsebob wrote:Yep, surprised he didn't do the same thing as Hamilton and stay out for a good few laps... That said, I'm surprised Hamilton didn't stay out for an extra 4/5 laps on his last set of softs... Probably would have dropped 3/4 seconds by doing it, but would have had far fresher hards... Maybe enough to get past?jamsbong wrote:Another note about Alonso. It seems that Ferrari have not learnt their lesson from Abu Dhabi last year. Remember Ferrari childishly reaction to Webber's pitstop, it seems that Ferrari reaction to Vettel's 2nd stop (on hindsight) has been costly.
Nope, not enough to pass. Looking at the last turn and comparing both cars going through there. They have 30 points more at 200kph. 4 laps fresher tyres can't make that up.
Sector 3 and turn 3 was too strong for the redbull.
The McLarens were staying with them even when they were running KERS in the race, I think their race pace advantage is just genuinely much less than their qualifying advantage... If not 0.ringo wrote:Driver of the race could go to either one of them. Hamilton was taking the car to the limit, and so was Vettel when he had the KERS failures.
But if without KERS he's 0.9s ahead in qualifying it isn't surprising that no kers or 50% KERS didn't affect the redbull advantage in race.
Not sure you can call it a beginner's mistake when it's 2 world champions and one of the most experienced drivers in the field doing it, I find it much more likely that they set very fast times simply because they were all on new tyres and lower fuel. The FIA just looked at it being faster, and not at the circumstances of being faster.andrew wrote:Bit of a beginners mistake though.beelsebob wrote:I'm not sure I see that driving fast past some yellows makes your drive suddenly not a great one.