New FIA Front Wing Load Test

[kris]

Are the new tests applicable to cars which are under pre-season testing?

[bhall]

And are there any sources for the change other than what one of us is reporting?

[xpensive]

I believe that article 3.17.8 in FIAs Technical regulations gives unlimited possibilities to test the frontwing of any car at any time in whatever fashion Charlie Whiting desires, even at just a hunch of what he would consider foul play.

Article 3.15 is xtremely clear on what is not accepted.

These articles were in effect already in 2010, possibly before that.

[bhall]

Understood. I'm just wondering where the specific parameters being discussed came from.

[Trocola]

I think extending the endplate down, making it touch the ground would actually be worse. Wouldn't that act as a skirt?

Just after i write it, that came to my mind. But the solution is easy: FIA could limit the amount of wear that extension could have, just like the bottom of the car. Also, i said 30 mm to put a number. It could be 40 or 50 mm

Also, for avoiding aerodinamic improvement, instead of a plate down to the ground, just 4 or 5 little rods. With more than one broken on one side of the wing, you are disqualified


Trocola

[kalinka]

I think it would be better to have a FIA-mandated reinforcing element across the whole span of the FW. It could be a carbon fibre element of mandated length and thickness. Teams could lay additional carbon fibre layers on it to make it invisible, incorporating it into their FW design. Sure it would lead to more common FW designs, which is the bad part of the idea. If FIA decides to mandate a thin element, then it would flex, but it'll be same for all - teams could just make it stiffer if they want.

[myurr]

I think it would be better to have a FIA-mandated reinforcing element across the whole span of the FW. It could be a carbon fibre element of mandated length and thickness. Teams could lay additional carbon fibre layers on it to make it invisible, incorporating it into their FW design. Sure it would lead to more common FW designs, which is the bad part of the idea. If FIA decides to mandate a thin element, then it would flex, but it'll be same for all - teams could just make it stiffer if they want.

Or even just have a mandated flex sensor that runs through the middle of the wing and gives a reading as to how much flex occurs.

Whatever the solution it's something the FIA sorely needs to get on top of, or they need to rewrite the rules in a form that they can police so that it is fair on all competitors.

[Caito]

I got lost into where's the problem wiht wings flexing. It's clearly not a safety issue.

Is it a spending issue? The ones who have the money will spend it anyways, flexing wings or elsewhere. The ones who don't, wouldn't in the first place.

[Robbobnob]

its more of a issue of other teams complaining because they can't mimic the technology without the issue of massive costs into R&D, which say RedBull might have spent a period of 3 - 4 years financing.

Also that and the FIA are a bunch of prats with their only goal on making cars less interesting

[Crucial_Xtreme]

And are there any sources for the change other than what one of us is reporting?

Here is another source, Technical Director of Force India Andrew Green

http://plus.autosport.com/premium/featu ... rew-green/

[xpensive]

Having said that, simply adding a horizontal component to the current load-test might make Newey a little nervous?

So, you apply a horizontal force and it could move downward, but you apply a vertical force and it does not move horizontally (rearward)?

How is this possible? Just a rough explanation is fine at this point.

Brian

As a newbie on another thread xpressed it; "your annoying arguing, bickering and abrasive comments in general",
makes me politely decline engaging myself in a discussion with you.

[Trocola]

I got lost into where's the problem wiht wings flexing. It's clearly not a safety issue.

Is it a spending issue? The ones who have the money will spend it anyways, flexing wings or elsewhere. The ones who don't, wouldn't in the first place.

It is illegal to have flexing wings. That's the "only" problem. Also, a safety issue too.

If you legalise flexy parts on an F1, then there will be front wings that flex too much, even touching the ground, and, on a turn, they could hit a kerb and break, leading to a safety issue because the amount of DF lost in the middle of the corner.

Or at least that is what i think about this.


Trocola