Australian GP 2011 - Albert Park, 24-27 March

[myurr]

DRS did work, but it worked only twice to what we saw on TV, the rules need a tweak, but its still too early still i think.

To be honest we don't want DRS to make it too easy do we? We saw a couple of DRS aided overtakes but they didnt make it easy, so all in all that was a good balance for me. I'd rather DRS wasn't there, but if they're going to have it then I'd rather it was as marginal as it was in this race.

[komninosm]

Shumi got dsq when he damaged his floor in 1994. Lets see how the stewards will hold up the Mclarens result.

And plenty of teams have been able to pass scrutineering when they have had damaged cars, even being allowed to replace damaged parts so that they pass the weight checks.

Remember Kimi Raikkonnen finishing a race with a broken exhaust that didn't pass the minimum radius rules? Cars finishing races with broken front wing end plates? Cars missing parts of the floor due to damage from a puncture?

The stewards are allowed to let a team pass scrutineering if there are extenuating circumstances such as obvious damage to the car. The difference with Schumacher was that they damaged the floor by running wide so the floor was the damaged part, which they couldn't prove was because Schumacher went off or if it was general wear and tear throughout the race. In McLaren's case the bib stay has broken which has led to damage to the floor, something that can be clearly demonstrated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Belgian_Grand_Prix
Post race the German was stripped of his win due to excessive wear on his Benetton's skid block.[1] This would indicate the car's ride height was too low and hence he had an illegal aerodynamic advantage. The Benetton team's claim that it was due to Schumacher making a full spin on top of the curbs on lap 19 was rejected by the Stewards because of the wear pattern. Damon Hill was therefore awarded the victory.

[Mr Alcatraz]

DRS did work, but it worked only twice to what we saw on TV, the rules need a tweak, but its still too early still i think.

To be honest we don't want DRS to make it too easy do we? We saw a couple of DRS aided overtakes but they didnt make it easy, so all in all that was a good balance for me. I'd rather DRS wasn't there, but if they're going to have it then I'd rather it was as marginal as it was in this race.

What I saw was guys on worn tires get b!tch-slapped by guys on fresh rubber!:)

[myurr]

I dunno, Shumi got dsq from the 94 Spa results for just a few scratches. Im pretty sure the stewards will find a way to allow Hamiltons results to stand though. After all, they would be breaking a trend if they wouldnt.

What the more hands off less politically interfering trend since Todt took over?

[komninosm]

I screwed up the alarm clock and missed the start. Did Fred make a poor stars? When I started watching at lap 12 he was behind Mark and Massa?

LOL me too, almost. Stupid hour change. I set my alarm for 7:30 when the TV show started but it was actually 8:30 when I woke up. Thankfully they were showing the Qualifying today first (didn't show them yesterday here) and I didn't miss the race start (9:00).

[vall]

DRS did work, but it worked only twice to what we saw on TV, the rules need a tweak, but its still too early still i think.

To be honest we don't want DRS to make it too easy do we? We saw a couple of DRS aided overtakes but they didnt make it easy, so all in all that was a good balance for me. I'd rather DRS wasn't there, but if they're going to have it then I'd rather it was as marginal as it was in this race.

+1 Overtaking in F1 has never been easy and it should stay this way.

I found it encouraging that the cars could follow each other closely without loosing aero performance. Is the the lack of DDD? I guess on more normal tracks with longer straights there will be more action... At least I hope so

[myurr]

I dunno, Shumi got dsq from the 94 Spa results for just a few scratches. Im pretty sure the stewards will find a way to allow Hamiltons results to stand though. After all, they would be breaking a trend if they wouldnt.

What the more hands off less politically interfering trend since Todt took over?

No, just more the 'oh, Hamilton breaking the rules? Again? Lets just give him a warning'' routine.

I think that's just been in your head to be honest. Anyway back on topic, did you see this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Belgian_Grand_Prix
Post race the German was stripped of his win due to excessive wear on his Benetton's skid block.[1] This would indicate the car's ride height was too low and hence he had an illegal aerodynamic advantage. The Benetton team's claim that it was due to Schumacher making a full spin on top of the curbs on lap 19 was rejected by the Stewards because of the wear pattern. Damon Hill was therefore awarded the victory.

[Jimi_Hendrix_1967]

st race the German was stripped of his win due to excessive wear on his Benetton's skid block""

Lets see how strict the Australian stewards, including briton johnny herbert will be...

[vall]

I screwed up the alarm clock and missed the start. Did Fred make a poor stars? When I started watching at lap 12 he was behind Mark and Massa?

LOL me too, almost. Stupid hour change. I set my alarm for 7:30 when the TV show started but it was actually 8:30 when I woke up. Thankfully they were showing the Qualifying today first (didn't show them yesterday here) and I didn't miss the race start (9:00).

it was not the clock change for me. My cell phone alarm is adjusted to ring only on the work days, but the stupid thing still shows the sign that the alarm is on on the weekend even though it will not ring. And I completely forgot about this feature last night when set up the alarm ...

[nacho]

DRS wasn't worth anything.

[Mr Alcatraz]

Jimi_Hendrix_1967 I think you are a little over the top. Take it from someone who found out the hard way "It really doesn't fly in this forum"

[myurr]

st race the German was stripped of his win due to excessive wear on his Benetton's skid block""

Lets see how strict the Australian stewards, including briton johnny herbert will be...

If you read it properly they considered the reason as being because of his spin but they discounted that as being the reason. So it was considered and rejected.

That categorically means they will consider circumstances for the wear.

[komninosm]

st race the German was stripped of his win due to excessive wear on his Benetton's skid block""

Lets see how strict the Australian stewards, including briton johnny herbert will be...

The Benetton team's claim that it was due to Schumacher making a full spin on top of the curbs on lap 19 was rejected by the Stewards because of the wear pattern.
If McLaren claim that the wear was due to the bib being broken and the tea tray hanging loose then the Stewards cannot reject that ergo your point is moot no matter how many times you post your heart's desire.

[Jimi_Hendrix_1967]

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[myurr]

Sure, Hamilton still posting fast times with that part of the plank being lower and more worn out than normal. Id be very suprised if Hamilton isnt disqualified. Then again, with all the previous non penalties, i wouldnt.

Well done Vettel, for beating them fair and square. Bring on Malaysia!

He was 1 - 1.5 seconds off the pace, as measured against Buttons lap times, so it was definitely hurting him. And if you want to talk about the FIA turning a blind eye, how about their continued failure to police their own flexing aero rules?