Mercedes GP W02

[Joie de vivre]

at least they could used those testing for some actual testing not for cooling their balls, seriously what are they thinking

[yener]

I think they must be stupid to test new visible parts on the car. If they have something new which will gain them time, they won't show till they present the wo3 or before the start of the next season.

What they can use and test are new engine(maps), exhaust, suspensions. Things which won't be too visible for other teams since they will directly copy.

Ferrari and Redbull are collecting data to "calibrate" the CFD and windtunnel. For that they are using visible measurement parts on the car.

I'm curious if Mercedes will use something like that the next coming days.

Unfortunately we have almost no pictures of the wo2 during the testing session.

We will have to wait for more pictures.

[aleks_ader]

Ferrari and Redbull are collecting data to "calibrate" the CFD and windtunnel. For that they are using visible measurement parts on the car.

That tests also tell nothing concrete. So you have totaly right!

[Adamski]

If they have something new which will gain them time, they won't show till they present the wo3 or before the start of the next season.

I think it isn't that easy. Brand new ideas (just like the front wing f-duct) needs some development time and then tons of fine-tuning. It also needs to work with other parts of the car. If they start gathering information in February, I bet it will be late.
If I'm good, Red Bull Racing already used the so called EBD in 2010 and in 2011, it was their main weapon.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

[f1motta]

Source: http://www.f1talks.pl/2011/11/17/ostatni-dzien-testow

[bjpower]

If you used U shaped side pods with the exhaust cover would you not end up with the biggest wing in F1?

just an idea - prob would not work well with the exhaust gas.

[astracrazy]

biggest wing?

[Owen.C93]

It would be rather useless without low pressure flow underneath.

[dren]

That exhaust position is fairly far forward isn't it?

[Mr.S]

I read somewhere that Red Bull are testing Forward Facing F-duct.Some polish site translated,from one link given here.

BTW for me 3 days of testing prove that the car is definitely a dog.Without people like Bell & Costa coming in I would not have been surprised W03 fighting with Carteham & Williams next year. Afterall the car loses atleast 1+s due to engine mapping & EBD & none of these cars have.

Either Sam Bird is the least talented driver on earth or the car was massively over-driven. MASSIVELY. The car is very far off the pace.

[astracrazy]

I fail to see where your coming from? Please explain. The car finished 2nd today .5 secs ahead of Ferrari...

[Mr.S]

Just saw the new time. The long runs were super SLOW though. Very High 1-40's.

Anyways the car was pretty slow the last 2 days.Pretty slow,whatever fuel they were testing.The track has got quicker,last year it was 2s quicker within 1 day or 2. This season even with loosing EBD Sam Bird should have done a much quicker time.He is 1s off Nico's pace,after 3 full days of running(no set-up compromise like all drivers have to do somewhat for a race).

[beelsebob]

Just saw the new time. The long runs were super SLOW though. Very High 1-40's.

Anyways the car was pretty slow the last 2 days.Pretty slow,whatever fuel they were testing.The track has got quicker,last year it was 2s quicker within 1 day or 2. This season even with loosing EBD Sam Bird should have done a much quicker time.He is 1s off Nico's pace,after 3 full days of running(no set-up compromise like all drivers have to do somewhat for a race).

Car designed around exhaust blowing sucks when not exhaust blowing. News at 11.

[dren]

I would not read into testing times at all. There is a large discrepancy between drivers for these events. There is also a lot of testing going on with new parts, varying fuel loads and tires. Not all of the teams were running different exhaust configurations. The cars likely lose a lot of DF when not running EBDs.

We know where the W02 stands performance wise as all of the top 4 teams have top drivers in them, which makes it easy to compare.