Sebastian Vettel has won the Belgian GP in his usual dominant fashion, especially in the second half of the race. Mark Webber came in second, completing a perfect result for Red Bull. Jenson Button had a great drive to 3rd while Alonso finishes a solid fourth.
Remember the saftey car had a lot to do with Button's fortune.
Without it, he may have been scrapping with the Mercedes.
I honestly don't see why you always have to do this. Whether you agree or not, safety car or not, Jenson was the fastest guy out there today.
Yes he was the fastest. Other cars were on hards in the end remember?
But if he you say he started further up the grid, he would not have been on the hards earlier in the race and may have been 3rd or 4rth anyway. So a lot of things change if the situation changes.
Remember the saftey car had a lot to do with Button's fortune.
Without it, he may have been scrapping with the Mercedes.
I honestly don't see why you always have to do this. Whether you agree or not, safety car or not, Jenson was the fastest guy out there today.
Yes he was the fastest. Other cars were on hards in the end remember?
But if he you say he started further up the grid, he would not have been on the hards earlier in the race and may have been 3rd or 4rth anyway. So a lot of things change if the situation changes.
No, no, I don't think you understand. Jenson Button was the fastest driver today.
Why do you always have to argue about everything when it's about Button?
I once again checked out the Webber & Alonso overtake. You can see the difference between a 1 time & 2 time World Champion. Had there been Hamilton there would have been a crash. Alonso knows when to back off. Until hamilton gets some intelligence I have serious doubts how many titles he can win.
I also cant understand the VERY STUPID Safety car was the reason behind Button's success. BUTTON was like 20 seconds odd down on the leader or more & made a lot of ground. His rear wing was severely damaded during a shunt in the 1st corner. HE HIMSELF SAID he lot a lot of time during that.He recknes could have won SPA without accident.
BUTTON was 1st in Q1. I am not exactly a huge fan of playing the game of if's & but he had a REAL good chance at POLE. Even if he had qualified at P4 he had a very good chance of a win specially considering the blisters & how good he is at managing tyres.
Congrats to Vettel for his flawless drive and his second title. Youngest point scorer, pole setter, race winner, world champion and now the youngest ever double world champion. His critics are out of business (oh, don't come with the "he can't race, he can't overtake !!!" bs please).
Unlike Vettel, Hamilton being unable to keep his slate clean is getting a bit old now. Sure, the crash was not solely his fault, but if the other driver is about to cause trouble, isn't it a no brainer to take evasive action ? That said, Kobayashi was definitely brain dead daydreamig about braking late and trying to pass Lewis round the outside at Les Combes... It was a real shame given Button's performance with the car in the 2nd half of the race. It's clear Hamilton was going to give Vettel a real run for his money if not for the mishap. Having said that, McLaren got it wrong for race day, at the starting stages it was clear the car was carrying too much downforce and Hamilton's straight line deficit to his rivals at kemmel straight was clearly visible.
Gutted for Bruno Senna. Though it was his own doing;and he's lucky it didn't cause a much bigger carnage from which he couldn't have gotten away with only a drive through.
Solid drives from PM and MS to come from the back and score points. Tho I couldn't quite get the part where NR got the call from the team to save fuel when MS was hot on his heels. And right after that NR started setting his best sector times in the race. Not exactly fuel saving, eh ? Team orders anyone ? (for 5th lol).
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Aced wrote:
No, no, I don't think you understand. Jenson Button was the fastest driver today.
Why do you always have to argue about everything when it's about Button?
I argue anything with Mclaren dirvers.
He was the fastest from Q1. His car was setup pretty good.
For the race it self, redbull were out of reach, even with all the uneccesary stops by Webber and Vettel.
Aced wrote:
No, no, I don't think you understand. Jenson Button was the fastest driver today.
Why do you always have to argue about everything when it's about Button?
I argue anything with Mclaren dirvers.
He was the fastest from Q1. His car was setup pretty good.
For the race it self, redbull were out of reach, even with all the uneccesary stops by Webber and Vettel.
What unnecessary stops? Didn't Webber do only 2? And Vetter did one under safety car? It seemed the Red bulls were pretty similar to the McLarens in overall speed (for the 305 km). Most did 3 stops anyway.
Button set the fastest lap time but if I look through the lap times he never maintained the lap times consistently enough but let that take nothing away from the wicked race he had....
Generally I don't care about what people say. I have to be clear with myself. When everything goes well, people celebrate you, when you make mistakes people criticize you.
Sebastian Vettel
Aced wrote:
No, no, I don't think you understand. Jenson Button was the fastest driver today.
Why do you always have to argue about everything when it's about Button?
I argue anything with Mclaren dirvers.
He was the fastest from Q1. His car was setup pretty good.
For the race it self, redbull were out of reach, even with all the uneccesary stops by Webber and Vettel.
When you pit due to blistering tyres I wouldn't call it unnecessary......
Generally I don't care about what people say. I have to be clear with myself. When everything goes well, people celebrate you, when you make mistakes people criticize you.
Sebastian Vettel
Here's the one thing that scares me; Vettel actually made some beautiful overtakes. None as beautiful as those who overtook in Eau Rouge , but he did some fantastic non-DRS overtakes. He overtook Webber out of La Source and before Eau Rouge (though FOM missed that) after the safety car period, he overtook Alonso without DRS on the Kemmel straight into Les Combes (I think it was without DRS, no?) and, something that smacked beautifully of Alonso in Suzuka. He passed Rosberg around the outside of Blanchimont; which I did not think was possible for any car on any car. Almost a carbon copy of Alonso on Schumacher in 130R corner in Suzuka.
His defensive driver has stepped up a gear too methinks He doesn't go up the inside to cover the entry to the corner, but he seems to have a way of beautifully reading the cars behind him; and "controls" their corner exits into the key parts. Spain is a case in point. Another is in Monaco. He was going through Portier and Anthony Noghes very slowly each time, and picking his moment to traction out of the corner beautifully, in a "safety car restart" style fashion, catching his pursuers out by sheer human response times.
Absolutely remarkable.
He hasn't done much overtaking this year when on the same strategy; most of the ones he's done this year are based on DRS; or on fresh vs old tyres. But this is the first race which really made me in awe of him. Clearly his overtaking skills are beginning to mature.
Abso-fricking-lutely remarkable.
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I think it was very unfortunate for Hamilton. He wanted to take position on the far left side for best entry (and exit) of Les Combes 1 (the first right hander) but if he hadn't (i.e. if he had just turned in there to take the position, rather than take position) I'm absolutely convinced he would have survived.
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