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Sebastian Vettel had virtually led from start to finish after launching away from pole position and easily retaining first, even without KERS. Lewis Hamilton came in second after an impressive turnaround of McLaren performance while Vitaly Petrov brought Lotus Renault its first 2011 podium.
It's fairly obvious the guy dislikes/hates McLaren/Hamilton. I don't think your reasoned argument will change that.myurr wrote:If you read it properly they considered the reason as being because of his spin but they discounted that as being the reason. So it was considered and rejected.Jimi_Hendrix_1967 wrote:st race the German was stripped of his win due to excessive wear on his Benetton's skid block""
Lets see how strict the Australian stewards, including briton johnny herbert will be...
That categorically means they will consider circumstances for the wear.
Did he go outside of the white line to do that move? I can't remember. If he did, why no drive through penalty as with Button (and Alonso last year at Silverstone)?raymondu999 wrote:Vettel pulled a move around the outside of Button at Turn 4 too. Didn't know he had it in him. Usually he wouldn't be in the same league as Kobayashi/Hamilton on overtakes, but he's had his fine overtakes. Eg. on Kubica at Spa last year, and this one.
Yup all four wheels off circuit, but it seems to be ignored at that corner.Just_a_fan wrote:Did he go outside of the white line to do that move? I can't remember. If he did, why no drive through penalty as with Button (and Alonso last year at Silverstone)?raymondu999 wrote:Vettel pulled a move around the outside of Button at Turn 4 too. Didn't know he had it in him. Usually he wouldn't be in the same league as Kobayashi/Hamilton on overtakes, but he's had his fine overtakes. Eg. on Kubica at Spa last year, and this one.
Totally, Red Bull are the real cheaters last year in that respect (there's a nice thread about it).myurr wrote:He was 1 - 1.5 seconds off the pace, as measured against Buttons lap times, so it was definitely hurting him. And if you want to talk about the FIA turning a blind eye, how about their continued failure to police their own flexing aero rules?Jimi_Hendrix_1967 wrote:Sure, Hamilton still posting fast times with that part of the plank being lower and more worn out than normal. Id be very suprised if Hamilton isnt disqualified. Then again, with all the previous non penalties, i wouldnt.
Well done Vettel, for beating them fair and square. Bring on Malaysia!
On Greek TV they said a driver is allowed to do that once in a race in that particular turn or something to that effect. Is that true?myurr wrote:Yup all four wheels off circuit, but it seems to be ignored at that corner.Just_a_fan wrote:Did he go outside of the white line to do that move? I can't remember. If he did, why no drive through penalty as with Button (and Alonso last year at Silverstone)?raymondu999 wrote:Vettel pulled a move around the outside of Button at Turn 4 too. Didn't know he had it in him. Usually he wouldn't be in the same league as Kobayashi/Hamilton on overtakes, but he's had his fine overtakes. Eg. on Kubica at Spa last year, and this one.
Perhaps we should start proclaiming Hamilton the victor then as Vettel so obviously cheated?myurr wrote:Yup all four wheels off circuit, but it seems to be ignored at that corner.Just_a_fan wrote:Did he go outside of the white line to do that move? I can't remember. If he did, why no drive through penalty as with Button (and Alonso last year at Silverstone)?raymondu999 wrote:Vettel pulled a move around the outside of Button at Turn 4 too. Didn't know he had it in him. Usually he wouldn't be in the same league as Kobayashi/Hamilton on overtakes, but he's had his fine overtakes. Eg. on Kubica at Spa last year, and this one.
Turn 4 at Melbourne, much like corners such as the exit of the Ascari chicane, Turn 7 at Barcelona and some of the chicanes in Canada, etc etc are corners where it's considered acceptable. Also I believe there are more lax rules (I could be wrong) about "lengthening" the corner by going around the outside, rather than cutting a corner. Alonso at Silverstone cut Club, and Jenson cut turn 12 just now.myurr wrote:Yup all four wheels off circuit, but it seems to be ignored at that corner.Just_a_fan wrote:Did he go outside of the white line to do that move? I can't remember. If he did, why no drive through penalty as with Button (and Alonso last year at Silverstone)?raymondu999 wrote:Vettel pulled a move around the outside of Button at Turn 4 too. Didn't know he had it in him. Usually he wouldn't be in the same league as Kobayashi/Hamilton on overtakes, but he's had his fine overtakes. Eg. on Kubica at Spa last year, and this one.
Another myth down the drain.andrew wrote:Not wanting to worry the Hamilton fans, but I'm wondering if has learnt how to preseve his tyres yet? If he hasn't done that then there is not point in worrying about him getting within a second of Vettel to use his ARW.
Grid spot penaltymyurr wrote:Just replayed it on the BBC F1 Forum and confirmed that Vettel had all 4 wheels off track despite the rules being strengthened this year saying that at least one wheel must remain on the circuit at all times.
Shrieker wrote:Another myth down the drain.andrew wrote:Not wanting to worry the Hamilton fans, but I'm wondering if has learnt how to preseve his tyres yet? If he hasn't done that then there is not point in worrying about him getting within a second of Vettel to use his ARW.
