2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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So he got away with it basically. That's a good precedent to be setting...

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Why not just give him a reprimand, a 10 second ban is basically just brushing it off. Typical stewards unfortunately!

I`m not saying he should or shouldn`t have got anything, just whats the point in that?

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Mattchu wrote:Why not just give him a reprimand, a 10 second ban is basically just brushing it off. Typical stewards unfortunately!

I`m not saying he should or shouldn`t have got anything, just whats the point in that?
There isn't any point.

But it wouldn't look good on them if theyre only giving him a reprimand for both causing a collision, almost causing another collision and driving with a dangerous car when Lewis already has two reprimands for extremely trivial things this year.

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Can someone just pass this on to the stewards please. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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What a joke.
Both Nico and Mercedes should have received exemplary punishments. Anyway F1 is all about old boy connections, so you never know what might have gone on in the dark crevices.

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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I'm not saying he should have been punished at all, but if the stewards - with access to all the data - say he should, what on earth is the point of a completely meaningless punishment?

Very bizarre.

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Well they have set a bad precedent with a harmless 10s penalty.
Now drivers can start punting other cars off the track purposely once they know the other guy gets zero points and they only get 10 seconds added on to their race time.
Mercedes has too much influence over the sport. I hope next year they are challenged by redbull and ferrari. Formula seems too manipulated at this point.
Rosberg will do this again though, it's just how his mind works, lets see what happens then. His spoiled brat tactics will eventually land him a championship.
He has probably had 2 spoiled brat moments per year since 2013, and they are getting more intense the longer his partnership with Lewis continues without a WDC.
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Decisions regarding Rosberg.
Fact: The driver continued on the track with a damaged car spreading debris and with the
front wing detached
Offence: Breach of Article 12.1.1 h) of the FIA International Sporting Code
Decision: Reprimand
This is the driver's 1st reprimand of the current season.
Reason: Article 22.11 of the Formula One Sporting Regulations requires a driver with serious
mechanical difficulties to leave the track as soon as it is safe to do so.  We do note the
extenuating circumstances and the fact that the driver of Car 6 (ROS) did slow down
significantly and attempted to mitigate the risk to other drivers and cars.
Fact: Causing a collision with car 44 in turn 2.
Offence: Involved in an incident as defined by Article 38.1 of the FIA Formula One Sporting
Regulations.
Decision: 10 Second Time Penalty imposed after the race in accordance with Article 38.3 (10
seconds added to elapsed race time)
(2 penalty points awarded, 2 points total for the 12 month period).
Reason: Having taken note of the extensive evidence given by both drivers and the video and
telemetry data, it was apparent that Car 44 (HAM) was in front of Car 6 (ROS) – i.e.
more than fully alongside – and that the driver of Car 44 could have clearly made the
turn (T2) on the track, if not for the resultant collision.  Car 6 did not allow Car 44
“racing room” and hence the driver of Car 6 was responsible for the collision

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Tbh, if it was up to me Rosberg would've been give a DSQ and a 5-place grid penalty for the British GP.
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3jawchuck wrote:Decisions regarding Rosberg.
Fact: Causing a collision with car 44 in turn 2.
Offence: Involved in an incident as defined by Article 38.1 of the FIA Formula One Sporting
Regulations.
Decision: 10 Second Time Penalty imposed after the race in accordance with Article 38.3 (10
seconds added to elapsed race time)
(2 penalty points awarded, 2 points total for the 12 month period).
Reason: Having taken note of the extensive evidence given by both drivers and the video and
telemetry data, it was apparent that Car 44 (HAM) was in front of Car 6 (ROS) – i.e.
more than fully alongside – and that the driver of Car 44 could have clearly made the
turn (T2) on the track, if not for the resultant collision.
  Car 6 did not allow Car 44
“racing room” and hence the driver of Car 6 was responsible for the collision
Its kind of crazy how this point wasn't immediately apparent to everyone, including Nico and the rest of the Merc team.

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GrandAxe wrote:What a joke.
Nico has done his career a lot of harm this season and everyone sees that. The joke is on him and Pascal is having the best little laugh...

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3jawchuck wrote:Decisions regarding Rosberg.
Fact: The driver continued on the track with a damaged car spreading debris and with the
front wing detached
Offence: Breach of Article 12.1.1 h) of the FIA International Sporting Code
Decision: Reprimand
This is the driver's 1st reprimand of the current season.
Reason: Article 22.11 of the Formula One Sporting Regulations requires a driver with serious
mechanical difficulties to leave the track as soon as it is safe to do so.  We do note the
extenuating circumstances and the fact that the driver of Car 6 (ROS) did slow down
significantly and attempted to mitigate the risk to other drivers and cars.
Fact: Causing a collision with car 44 in turn 2.
Offence: Involved in an incident as defined by Article 38.1 of the FIA Formula One Sporting
Regulations.
Decision: 10 Second Time Penalty imposed after the race in accordance with Article 38.3 (10
seconds added to elapsed race time)
(2 penalty points awarded, 2 points total for the 12 month period).
Reason: Having taken note of the extensive evidence given by both drivers and the video and
telemetry data, it was apparent that Car 44 (HAM) was in front of Car 6 (ROS) – i.e.
more than fully alongside – and that the driver of Car 44 could have clearly made the
turn (T2) on the track, if not for the resultant collision.  Car 6 did not allow Car 44
“racing room” and hence the driver of Car 6 was responsible for the collision
Now that the fact is established that Nico has done it purposefully, as with the evidence. What is that the morons in the Mercedes management are going to do about this? Toto Wolff is simply, a spineless idiot with some sh** money, who simply doesn't know how to be a professional manager.

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
3jawchuck wrote:Decisions regarding Rosberg.
Fact: Causing a collision with car 44 in turn 2.
Offence: Involved in an incident as defined by Article 38.1 of the FIA Formula One Sporting
Regulations.
Decision: 10 Second Time Penalty imposed after the race in accordance with Article 38.3 (10
seconds added to elapsed race time)
(2 penalty points awarded, 2 points total for the 12 month period).
Reason: Having taken note of the extensive evidence given by both drivers and the video and
telemetry data, it was apparent that Car 44 (HAM) was in front of Car 6 (ROS) – i.e.
more than fully alongside – and that the driver of Car 44 could have clearly made the
turn (T2) on the track, if not for the resultant collision.
  Car 6 did not allow Car 44
“racing room” and hence the driver of Car 6 was responsible for the collision
Its kind of crazy how this point wasn't immediately apparent to everyone, including Nico and the rest of the Merc team.
The stewards have clearly dismissed the 'brake failure' excuse and that will not be lost on Merc management who have blown another chunk of credibility defending the chosen one.

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Watching the re-run on CH4, Rosberg overtaking Hulk around the outside turn 2... He gave him much less space then he got in the last lap :P
Oh well, I think the stewards made the right decision with 10s pen and two points.

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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I fail to understand how you can get away with a 10-second time penalty for deliberately driving off track.
These tactics are identical to what Michael Schumacher has pulled off with Villeneuve in 1997, and the only difference there is that it was a championship deciding race.

I think this one, even though the consequences are less, is a far worse issue than what we had at Barcelona. He could claim to be surprised there, but here, it was a simple, deliberate move.
Given the explanation of the stewards, I would think of more severe penalty would be more appropriate.