2023 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Jeddah, March 17 - 19

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Max is the new Lewis "my car doenst feel good its vibrating" and put in fastest lap ......

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LM10 wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:35
Who was saying Max had half a second on Perez?
On 1 lap, maybe. We'll never know. The race is different. Perez had the whole race in free air. Verstappen had to pass a lot of cars, even after the safety car.
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RonMexico wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:37
djones wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:34
RonMexico wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:31
Every weekend like this must be costing Hamilton millions in the contract negotiations
Highly unlikely. The greatest driver of all time (statistically - this cannot be argued) ain't going to be on the back foot in any negotiations.
Anything can be argued :) he definitely has had the best luck with machinery of any driver ever
Sure. In the same way, somebody could try to argue the earth is flat.

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Sofa King wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:21
Agreed, it’s a procession for the top 7, keeping their pace within a half second of each other
Crofty and Blundell where shouting all the time, couldnt focus on the race at all and there was some scottish women with totally nonsense about tires

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LM10 wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:35
Who was saying Max had half a second on Perez?
Max started 15th and finished only about 5 seconds behind Perez who started on pole.

SC aside, his overall pace was much faster even though with a faulty car at the end he was on the back foot.

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RonMexico wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:37
djones wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:34
RonMexico wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:31
Every weekend like this must be costing Hamilton millions in the contract negotiations
Highly unlikely. The greatest driver of all time (statistically - this cannot be argued) ain't going to be on the back foot in any negotiations.
Anything can be argued :) he definitely has had the best luck with machinery of any driver ever
Yeah and Schumacher has won his championships without luck and a dogshit machinery just by overdriving slow Ferraris +2 seconds of what they were capable of.All of the all time great drivers had luck and or good machinery,that's how it works.If you dislike Hamilton or any other driver for that matter that's clearly your problem but credit where its due.
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harty71 wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:40
RonMexico wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:31
Every weekend like this must be costing Hamilton millions in the contract negotiations
That's it for me, pains me to say it but he's no longer needed, especially with the wage he demands. You could get a solid driver in Norris for a fraction of the cost.
If the car is not up to scratch next season or behind and no clear path of development like it is now I see him going.

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AR3-GP wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:39
LM10 wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:35
Who was saying Max had half a second on Perez?
On 1 lap, maybe. We'll never know. The race is different. Perez had the whole race in free air. Verstappen had to pass a lot of cars, even after the safety car.
That does not fit the narrative some people want to push.

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Poleman wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:41
RonMexico wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:37
djones wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:34


Highly unlikely. The greatest driver of all time (statistically - this cannot be argued) ain't going to be on the back foot in any negotiations.
Anything can be argued :) he definitely has had the best luck with machinery of any driver ever
Yeah and Schumacher has won his championships without luck and a dogshit machinery just by overdriving slow Ferraris +2 seconds of what they were capable of.All of the all time great drivers had luck and or good machinery,that's how it works.If you dislike Hamilton or any other driver for that matter that's clearly your problem but credit where its due.
Schumacher brought Ferrari back again before his time they where worthless he got them to make a reliable car suited to his style.

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If today's talk from Toto is legit, then Mercedes will be comfortably the second best car very soon. Add the extra development time they have over RB and fingers crossed we will start to see some actual racing up front in the odd race where RB have a less than good day.

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AR3-GP wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:39
LM10 wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:35
Who was saying Max had half a second on Perez?
On 1 lap, maybe. We'll never know. The race is different. Perez had the whole race in free air. Verstappen had to pass a lot of cars, even after the safety car.
As always, stats over the season would answer that. Last year, after Monaco Perez was a championship contender.

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Well Hamilton was 0.9 behind russel and just backed off. It was a matter of just bring the car home.
There was a chance to after Alonso if russel let Hamilton through.
For Sure!!

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djones wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:39
RonMexico wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:37
djones wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:34


Highly unlikely. The greatest driver of all time (statistically - this cannot be argued) ain't going to be on the back foot in any negotiations.
Anything can be argued :) he definitely has had the best luck with machinery of any driver ever
Sure. In the same way, somebody could try to argue the earth is flat.
He has had a race winning car in every season he has raced so far. He failed to win last year but his teammate did. His teammates have only failed to win at least one race only twice. One was Heikki Kovalainen who was dropped after and the other was Bottas who had a tyre explode in the closing laps of a race while leading.

No other driver has ever had 16 years of race winning machinery. That is something that simply can't be argued

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ringo wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 20:44
Well Hamilton was 0.9 behind russel and just backed off. It was a matter of just bring the car home.
There was a chance to after Alonso if russel let Hamilton through.
I guess we were watching different races. If he couldn't stay on George's tail, how would he have made a move on Alonso?

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10 second penalty Alonso. Congrats on the podium Merc!