Could Schumacher or Alonso replace Massa?

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He believes that having Schumacher at the wheel will resolve all of the current deficiencies and allow for race domination. That's not how this works, and he doesn't realize that. The F60 is not an F2004, if you get the idea.

The drivers are not at fault either, given the proper equipment Massa and Raikkonen will win, but at the moment the equipment is not up to par with the race winning chassis.
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mx_tifosi wrote:He believes that having Schumacher at the wheel will resolve all of the current deficiencies and allow for race domination. That's not how this works, and he doesn't realize that. The F60 is not an F2004, if you get the idea.

The drivers are not at fault either, given the proper equipment Massa and Raikkonen will win, but at the moment the equipment is not up to par with the race winning chassis.
Thanks for your explaination. Please forgive me for not making myself clear enough. Surely, the race domination will not happen this year. What about F2008 during last year? If Ferrari had Schumacher on board last year, all those near misses would probably not occur and they would have won the driver's championships. Yes, it is very difficult to predict as it can be attributed to several factors.

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Oh yes oh yes oh yes :shock: :P :D

'Schumacher would consider return'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 172310.stm

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It would be funny if the old man came back, pretended to stagger around with a walking stick/zimmer frame etc...

... and whipped the young cubs out on track :lol:

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Meanwhile,,,, back in the real world

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Schumacher seems to have a jinx on Kimi when he's on the pt wall... I wonder what would happen if they were both on the track???

Anyway, its not gong to happen. The senior reserve driver will get the seat. Sorry to be dull, but that's what life is like.

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FGD wrote:Can't believe you're ready to put Massa's career in the coffin.
For the record, I honestly and personally want to see Massa back in a Ferrari as soon as possible. But I try to balance my personal wishes against the harsh realities of medicine. The kind of injury Massa received could have led to complications such as bleeding or swelling of the brain, which could have been life-threatening. The first 24 hours are absolutely critical, and in the past there are incidents where a person has died from lack of proper medical treatment. But the bottom line is that he is getting the best of care, the worst has passed, and I for one can finally breathe a sigh of relief. And I give thanks to the many, many people who were part of, or or now participating in the FIA's safety procedures. To the people who removed him from his car, to the police who controlled bystanders, to the helicopter pilot and doctors, everyone involved, I thank you.
In the history of concussions and brain damage, permanent damage can occur, and a person may never be the same. I'm not saying it will happen to Massa, but the possibility is there. And it may appear minor, but for a professional race car driver, lessening of reflex speed can spell the end of a career. These guys are at the apex of physical and mental conditioning, and if you're not at the very top of your game, then you're not going to race for Ferrari.
And even if recovery is possible, it may take many months, even years to claw back what was robbed from him. Concussion is a wicked thing, and worse than people used to assume.

Schumacher back in the saddle? 24 hours ago I poo-pooed this concept. But it just may happen.......
Thinking about this some it starts to make sense. First off, do not expect Schumacher to win, although it is a possibility. But more important, he can step into a seat, and based on his experience and skills, can do nothing but improve the team. He can identify roadblocks, deficiencies, and all without fear of reprisal. His stature guarantees respect. To have Schumacher driving in a Ferrari for the rest of the season will result in a vastly improved team for 2010.

But I still believe rumors of a return by Schumacher is nothing more than a fanboy's wet dreams.
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would love to see schumacher back but it wouldnt be the same, he wouldnt be as fast maybe top 10 i dont know. but he finshed brazil amazing race from the back to 4th, another 10 laps he would have won the race, it was incredable speed he showed in the ferrari, god i wish he had won that chapionship i still remeber sukuka a saw some smoke just b4 the advert of someone, then when it came bk on he was out so sad :(

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I think there is one reason Mike could replace FM
It's the fact that he has worked so closely with Massa
especially last season.
Here is the pertinent question that no one is asking.
Will Bernie coerce Ferrari (talking major remuneration) into using Mike?
All Bernie cares about is bottom-line-economics, and he could cash in on Mike especially if FM is out for the duration.
Alonso will not do it. I believe he has too much respect for the game.
He'll get his Ferrari ride soon enough.
Having said all that I still think it's an outside shot that Mike would come back
We can only hope
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i'd love to see him back and i think he'd want to do it

even if he's not doing as well as massa would have he'll still be better than badoer, gene or bourdais

who else could they get with experience in f1? no one

bernie will pull out all the stops to make this happen and it's nice that something so tragic could create another fascinating aspect of this brilliant season

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With the F60 starting to show some competitive pace, and the wonderful KERS button starts, whoever steps in may look like a champ.

MS would be the obvious choice, and with teh long break, he may be able to get his fitness training pretty well started before the next race.

Other than that, I would LOVE to see Anthony Davidson step in as the replacement. I always thought that he would do really well if given a decent car.

Only time (and press releases) will tell though!

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Looks like no Schumie :(

Michael Schumacher's manager Willi Weber has moved quickly to deny speculation that the German driver could make a shock return to Formula 1.

With Ferrari set to begin its hunt for a temporary replacement for the injured Felipe Massa, Schumacher's name has been mentioned because of his long-standing links to the Italian team.

The rumours intensified after his spokeswoman said that he would 'consider' any offer to drive the car if the team approached him.

However, following meetings between Schumacher and Weber at the seven-time world champion's Geneva home on Monday, talk of the German making a racing comeback has been dismissed.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77396

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All the great managers Brawn & Todt and the like have been replaced with the "spaghetti management" as Lauda put it and they are clearly not capable of running a successful F1 team. MS would quickly be infuriated by their shear incompetence.

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Agreed,

But almost ANYONE would jump into the F60, just in hopes of keeping the seat of Felipe cannot race anymore.

I sincerely hope that Davidson gets a shot. But I fear that the "Spaghetti Management" may very well frighten off any other serious contenders...

I think it would be utterly hillarious if they actually picked up Bourdais, and he made Kimi look bad. That would seriously make this season the best of all time!

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"By popular request" I merged the topics on Schumacher or Alonso replacing Massa into this one.
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