2016 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, 08-10 July

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It's mostly to do with their fans.

You mostly hate all drivers because of their fans...
It´s 6 am over here but i´m pretty sure i read that right. right?

I've not once claimed to be a rational human being.

It's possible to switch gears from cynicism to duddhism as the prevalent default though process. Not that I'm proselytizing or anything like that.

But seriously, at times this season has felt like Formula WWE, despite that we're here watching and commenting from weekend to weekend, so there must be a hook.

The last thing I'll mention is something I commented on Sunday and yesterday I read a good writeup on ESPN by Maurice Hamilton along the same train of though.

When was the last time anyone here remembers a driver putting up the kind of post race show for the fans that Lewis Hamilton did? Like him or be one of his handful of detractors, the guy has been the most powerful brand ambassador we've seen in the sport for a generation. That's not fanboyism, that's economicism.

Four isms in one post, try and top that!

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When was the last time anyone here remembers a driver putting up the kind of post race show for the fans that Lewis Hamilton did? Like him or be one of his handful of detractors, the guy has been the most powerful brand ambassador we've seen in the sport for a generation. That's not fanboyism, that's economicism.!

However, when Vettel did the post race shows for fans in 2013, he was booed at/made fun of on certain tracks.

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When was the last time anyone here remembers a driver putting up the kind of post race show for the fans that Lewis Hamilton did? Like him or be one of his handful of detractors, the guy has been the most powerful brand ambassador we've seen in the sport for a generation. That's not fanboyism, that's economicism.!

However, when Vettel did the post race shows for fans in 2013, he was booed at/made fun of on certain tracks.

See that's the antithesis of the reaction I was anticipating.

Not sure how long your memory is but the other guy got booed in Austria, so what? Feelings hurt? It's not the guy you want to see cheered or booed? It happens and the world doesn't stop turning it affect the drivers less that it affects some fans really. I recall the run of Vettel booing happened after the Multi 2-1 episode. Justified or not, that was the prevailing sentiment and catalyst. Justified or not, booing just doesn't typically spontaneously occur.

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British media in pro-british sportsman shock...

Serious, why is it a surprise to anyone that the BRITISH media support a BRITISH driver, or tennis player for that matter. Only in Britain is patriotism a dirty word, even to brexiters.

The British are seemingly not allowed to be patriotic!
Everyone else is, not us. Crazy world we live in.
I love how the media occasionally get well behind Lewis, or Jenson for that matter.

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When was the last time anyone here remembers a driver putting up the kind of post race show for the fans that Lewis Hamilton did? Like him or be one of his handful of detractors, the guy has been the most powerful brand ambassador we've seen in the sport for a generation. That's not fanboyism, that's economicism.!

However, when Vettel did the post race shows for fans in 2013, he was booed at/made fun of on certain tracks.

See that's the antithesis of the reaction I was anticipating.

Not sure how long your memory is but the other guy got booed in Austria, so what? Feelings hurt? It's not the guy you want to see cheered or booed? It happens and the world doesn't stop turning it affect the drivers less that it affects some fans really. I recall the run of Vettel booing happened after the Multi 2-1 episode. Justified or not, that was the prevailing sentiment and catalyst. Justified or not, booing just doesn't typically spontaneously occur.

I remember the multi 2-1 episode very well, but the reaction from people should've been for a race or two, not throughout the season. In other races, he beat Webber fair and square, although I agree Webber had a lot of reliability issues/bad luck.
People used to scorn at Vettel because he had the best car underneath him and hence the dominance. Similar thing applies to Lewis (and Nico) in current scenario. I don't see any 'brilliance' (over and above what previous WC have already done) to get adoration heaped over him. Media will always milk the maximum to earn money and people do tend to get carried away by what they read and hear. Drivers have been winning championships in the 'best car'. Apart from Alonso who did the best job in 2012 and almost got the crown, full respect.

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Not many drivers manage to win a championship while in a car that doesn't win the constructors championship. But Lewis is one of them.

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British media in pro-british sportsman shock...

Serious, why is it a surprise to anyone that the BRITISH media support a BRITISH driver, or tennis player for that matter. Only in Britain is patriotism a dirty word, even to brexiters.

Its so blatant. Just tired of it. That's all.

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Anyone still complaining that 10 s for Rosberg in Austria was not enough or perhaps perspective ends on wishful thinking and driver related hypocrisy? No one's fainting from fake outrage ? Vettel did it is so awkwardly and without control (changing direction several times) that he himself ended up way off (Rosberg stayed on track) and he got 5 s = there are no rules in F1.

This is reality not 100 unsubstantiated attacks on a driver in this thread. Rosberg's fault that his gearbox malfunctioned and Mercedes brainboxes don't know which message will get them certain penalty.

...thank you.

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I'm with ya. Then again, I pretty much hate all drivers. So...

I try to limit my opinion on drivers to what they do on the track, keeps it much simpler that way, but pretty much hating all drivers I would think has takes a good bit of joy from the sport.

It's mostly to do with their fans. Give a competent driver a great car and a not-so-great teammate - the case for virtually all Champions since the duels between Senna and Prost - and when he wins, his fans treat him like he's the best thing since sliced milk.

I just don't find drivers that compelling.

Given an opportunity to have a conversation with a figure from the sport, I'd wanna meet James Allison or Adrian Newey or Aldo Costa or, if I was really lucky, John Barnard or Mauro Forghieri. I don't really have heroes. But, if I did...

So with you.

It'd add Jackie Stewart to that list (though I hear he's a jerk), as well Nikki Lauda and Ross Braun. I also like Willem Toet.

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I remember the multi 2-1 episode very well, but the reaction from people should've been for a race or two, not throughout the season.

I think this is an overly simplistic view, not all fans are at all races, so it might be multiple races till someone gets the chance to express how they feel about something a driver did.

People used to scorn at Vettel because he had the best car underneath him and hence the dominance.

Again, this seems overly simplistic.

I disliked Vettel back then, and It had nothing to do with him winning it had a lot to do with how he acted when he wasn't. For example, over the radio in 2012 Monza when he got a penalty. Since, I've pretty much decided that in my opinion the big issue was the toxic nature of our RBR management.

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It's mostly to do with their fans.

You mostly hate all drivers because of their fans...
It´s 6 am over here but i´m pretty sure i read that right. right?

I've not once claimed to be a rational human being.

Or irrational to my knowledge.
I´m gonna pretend it never happened so my memory of you and your wittiness, intelligent posts and sherlock holmes detective skills on lineages of aero parts stays intact

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When was the last time anyone here remembers a driver putting up the kind of post race show for the fans that Lewis Hamilton did? Like him or be one of his handful of detractors, the guy has been the most powerful brand ambassador we've seen in the sport for a generation. That's not fanboyism, that's economicism.

And then they said Alonso was more marketable then Hamilton.

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When was the last time anyone here remembers a driver putting up the kind of post race show for the fans that Lewis Hamilton did? Like him or be one of his handful of detractors, the guy has been the most powerful brand ambassador we've seen in the sport for a generation. That's not fanboyism, that's economicism.

And then they said Alonso was more marketable then Hamilton.

Alonso Valencia 2012?

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When was the last time anyone here remembers a driver putting up the kind of post race show for the fans that Lewis Hamilton did? Like him or be one of his handful of detractors, the guy has been the most powerful brand ambassador we've seen in the sport for a generation. That's not fanboyism, that's economicism.

And then they said Alonso was more marketable then Hamilton.

Alonso Valencia 2012?

I forgot about that time Alonso went crowd surfing!

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And then they said Alonso was more marketable then Hamilton.

Alonso Valencia 2012?

I forgot about that time Alonso went crowd surfing!

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58264D5B

Haha didn't realize Hamilton went that far