Why hamilton is so good at overtaking

[speedsense]

Matter of fact Hamilton in his first year was better than Alonso in 2007

As for this trash, no he was not!

SAME POINTS SAME WINS.

Factor in the Mechanical failure alonso suffered in Japan(his only non finish)
to Hamiltons driver error in China(his only retirement of the year) And the picture become very different indeed!
All this in the very public knowledge that all at Mclaren hated Alonso for spilling the beans on spygate....This more than anything makes up for it being Hamiltons first year.

"Factor in the Mechanical failure alonso suffered in Japan(his only non finish)..."

This was not mechanical failure, but driver/wet conditions error.....too much throttle, too big of a puddle,etc. ....the car snapped around under throttle exiting a corner WHILE he was trying to chase down Hamilton in the rain....
No mention of mechanical failure that I can find, simply problems in the wet...

[ISLAMATRON]

He is better under braking, in acceleration out of corners and thru the corners.

In the dry and especially in the wet.

And most of all he understands that passing is just as much about positioning the car as it is about speed.

[andrew]

£2.5 million from an F1 team when your aged 7 sure does help.

Trolling again huh... read this...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLDE64S0C620100529

Hamilton didnt need to start at a backmarker team because Ron Dennis had the ability to see that he was already a better driver than those drivers in those teams... evidence was him matching the so called 2XWDC. Ron Dennis learned that lesson when he passed on Senna.

Heikki had the same car as Lewis... what did he do with it... jack ---... Heikki had KERS.. do he shine like Lewis? Not in the least.

Button has an F-duct but he cant pass to save his life, sat behind MS while Hamilton was passing a superior Red bull in spain, explain that... was it the old BS excuse of McL favoring Hamilton? J.E.T. you keep talking about points as if they are in any way representative of driver skill. Nico has almost twice as many points as MS, does that mean he is twice as good? Does it even mean he is as good? Points dont mean ---, and neither does Button's 2 lucky wins versus Lewis' 1 lucky win.

No trolling from me. You know what they say about those that shout loudest...

It is a FACT that Hamilton had £2.5 million from Macca in his karting days. Argue with facts all you like. Hamilton has not had to work as hard as virtually every other driver to get a drive in a top team. I have noticed that he can only win when he has the best car or when he is gifted the win. The day he wins in the second best or worse car is the day I may consider revising my opion of his abilities but until that day comes I will not.

And what's the deal with TWO earings?

Anyhoo, back on topic, I don't think he is better or worse at overtaking. The car is darn good and the F-duct that works with the McLaren aero is a massive help.

[siskue2005]

£2.5 million from an F1 team when your aged 7 sure does help.

Trolling again huh... read this...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLDE64S0C620100529

Hamilton didnt need to start at a backmarker team because Ron Dennis had the ability to see that he was already a better driver than those drivers in those teams... evidence was him matching the so called 2XWDC. Ron Dennis learned that lesson when he passed on Senna.

Heikki had the same car as Lewis... what did he do with it... jack ---... Heikki had KERS.. do he shine like Lewis? Not in the least.

Button has an F-duct but he cant pass to save his life, sat behind MS while Hamilton was passing a superior Red bull in spain, explain that... was it the old BS excuse of McL favoring Hamilton? J.E.T. you keep talking about points as if they are in any way representative of driver skill. Nico has almost twice as many points as MS, does that mean he is twice as good? Does it even mean he is as good? Points dont mean ---, and neither does Button's 2 lucky wins versus Lewis' 1 lucky win.

No trolling from me. You know what they say about those that shout loudest...

It is a FACT that Hamilton had £2.5 million from Macca in his karting days. Argue with facts all you like. Hamilton has not had to work as hard as virtually every other driver to get a drive in a top team. I have noticed that he can only win when he has the best car or when he is gifted the win. The day he wins in the second best or worse car is the day I may consider revising my opion of his abilities but until that day comes I will not.

And what's the deal with TWO earings?

Anyhoo, back on topic, I don't think he is better or worse at overtaking. The car is darn good and the F-duct that works with the McLaren aero is a massive help.

yeah yeah he had easy ride to the top seat
And Mclaren are idiots to just spend 2.5 Million (an amount which us armchair experts cannot even earn in their life time) just for fun ...LOL
Dont you think his talent is what earned that money for him??

And he won 2 races last year, with a slow or 3rd best car

[andrew]

Yes, the McLaren engineers are very good.

[siskue2005]

Yes, the McLaren engineers are very good.

what??
So it was Mclaren engineers who at Hungary 2009 made him qualify in a better position and overtook Weber in the race, and won the race!! why didnt they give the race seat to those engineers...and what was his teammate with the same car doing in that race?

i suggest you to read this http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-new ... -comments/

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Yes Lewis won with the 3rd best car.
Look at Alonso he won with the 4th best car this year!

ISLAMATRON when it comes to hamilton, your rhetoric becomes very aggressive. Did I once say Hamilton was bad?
I stand corrected on alonso's DNF, I was going on memory. In this last sentence I admit 1 error the rest stand! Hamilton was NOT better.

You ought to have balance when wading into any debate, not simply blinded by what you support.

You see this little excerpt from F1 fanatic and a few other truted and respectful sites tells you everything you need to know about McLaren, Dennis and the implications for Lewis and Fernando.

Dennis made a remark that sent Alonso’s fans (and Alonso himself) to new heights of suspicion. Speaking of Hamilton’s race Dennis said:

"The problem was rain and [Hamilton's] tyres were in the worst condition. But we weren’t at all fazed about Kimi. We weren’t racing Kimi, we were basically racing Fernando.
Kimi winning and Lewis coming second was adequate. It just didn’t quite work out that way"

I will put it this way because you will not see it clearly.
The head of McLaren said WE WERE BASICALLY RACING FERNANDO (who drives for him too!!!!)
If you cant see this, then there is no hope in ever getting through to you on this subject.
Very damning indeed.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Yes, the McLaren engineers are very good.

what??
So it was Mclaren engineers who at Hungary 2009 made him qualify in a better position and overtook Weber in the race, and won the race!! why didnt they give the race seat to those engineers...and what was his teammate with the same car doing in that race?

i suggest you to read this http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-new ... -comments/

So the full might of Mclaren has nothing to do with it?
Or the fact their engineers are secon d to none?
Or that they turned around a 2.5 second gap at the start of the year(were lewis was busying getting lapped) to one where he was capable of overtaking?
He sure looked great when his car was crap hey?

[siskue2005]

Yes Lewis won with the 3rd best car.
Look at Alonso he won with the 4th best car this year!

Yeah yeah,,....Alonso seems to win only when someone in front of him breaks down....or he has a dominating car...or when his Papa Flav orders his teammate to crash for him ...or when he gets secret emails from his cousin Pedro

[mx_tifoso]

I don't know how many times this has been repeated, but this thread is about Lewis Hamilton, aka THE BOSS, and why is he "so good at overtaking." Please stay on topic and try to refrain from involving other drivers. This thread has the potential to be of quality but some people derail it and don't allow it.

[ringo]

Concerning his ability in a back marker car. Australia 2009 was a 3rd place finish basically, for those who watch official results alone and failed to see the race.
Anyone who says this driver, is ordinary and looks good becuase of the car is deluded.
I showed a video with Hamilton battling webber in 2009, nowhere does it show the mclaren is superior, but his placement, braking and pressure was what kept him in the fight.

His ability is second nature basically, and this is why others find overtaking a hair raising experience and to Lewis it's uneventful. I can't find the article, but he admits that overtaking in F1 is easy for him because he is so used to it and because of the regulations.

Other drivers find it difficult, and make it look clumsy. Such drivers as Vettel, who are claimed to be on Lewis level. Maybe they lacked the practice and have a few missing pieces in their experiences coming up through the ranks.

Second nature is something that separates the greats from the ordinary. I would say his braking skills are due to years of practice, and gradual purging out of the anxiety most might get going off line and doing the maneuvers he is so used to doing.

[Techspeed]

£2.5 million from an F1 team when your aged 7 sure does help.

No trolling from me. You know what they say about those that shout loudest...

It is a FACT that Hamilton had £2.5 million from Macca in his karting days. Argue with facts all you like. Hamilton has not had to work as hard as virtually every other driver to get a drive in a top team. I have noticed that he can only win when he has the best car or when he is gifted the win. The day he wins in the second best or worse car is the day I may consider revising my opion of his abilities but until that day comes I will not.

Do you have proof or a link to substantiate that 'fact'?

Hamilton didn't meet Ron Dennis until he was 10, and Ron Dennis didn't sign him up to the McLaren young drivers program until Hamilton was aged 13, after having won two British kart championships. It is also well known that Anthony Hamilton took on several jobs to support his sons racing, not something you are likely to do if someone has given you £2.5 million to go karting.

Of course, just like every other driver on the young driver programme, Hamilton had to demonstrate his ability on track to keep on being supported, for example he started in F3 in 2004 at Manor and his performance there is why he ended up with ASM and dominated the 2005 series.

[PlatinumZealot]

Hamilton deserved every single penny, even more than any other driver. In fact Mclaren should have even given him more money! There is no other driver that deserves more than Hamilton for what he did to get through to F1. He had to win everything and he had to shock and awe while he was doing it! Look at guys like Vettel, he didn't have to win to get a seat. Look on guys like Ho-hum Hulkenberg, he won everything too, but look at him now, he can't even match Barichello much more beating Alonso over a whole season.

Hamilton is the best overtaker of all times IMO. Like Michael Jordan of F1; he controls the car just like MJ did his Basket Ball. I would put his skill down to highly sensitive feel, good 3D perception, good vision and observation skills, good reflexes and finally very high Intelligence. (You guys know there are different kinds of intelligence right?).

[ISLAMATRON]

I think it is the new McLaren carbon fibre ear studs that cost 2.5 million and magically enhance his braking ability, car control and inner ear balance.

Obviously the team is favoring him because JB does not have a pair.

[kalinka]

Some pepople here are of very short memories. Jus watch this video. It's Turkish GP2 race from 2006. When I saw this at 2006, I was praying for F1 seat for Hamilton. No other comments necessary. Just watch. It's only one race, not a cut video from many races Remember : GP2 cars are mutvh mutch more similar to each other than F1 cars. So no big car performance advantage here.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbjRFd205qo[/youtube]



EDIT : When I show this to pepople, first time they always think it's a compilation of Hamilton's overtakings from a ENTIRE GP2 Season .No, it's only one race.