Why hamilton is so good at overtaking

[lebesset]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/177 ... ake-dancer

of course there is a rumour that someone has invented power assistance for the brakes to take away his advantage .....surely not

[Fil]

Why has he got 30-odd overtakings to his name this season?


Its quite simple. For one reason or another, he's qualified worse than where he should have.

Put the 2nd quickest car at the back of the field and watch it carve its way through to the top 10 with almost any driver behind the wheel.

[mx_tifoso]

The same could be said of his GP2 days right? IIRC he was in the best team, ART. Overtaking the back and midfield is a walk in the park for a top driver in a top car.

Case solved!

[lebesset]

I hate to say this guys , but I was just trying to point out the sort of nonsense that journalists write
whether or not hamilton is good at overtaking is not relevant !

to attribute his ability to a strong left leg has to be the most specious argument ever

[mx_tifoso]

I found that strong leg idea so stupid that I didn't even pay attention to it. But the supposed super late braking is somewhat true I guess, although it isn't the [sole] reason for the large amount of overtakings.

[lebesset]

I accept what you say , mx , he IS the last of the late brakers

but to attribute it to that left leg was so hilarious that I choked on my coffee

the writer obviously went to journalism college , I know the first thing they teach you there is to never let the truth interfere with a good story

nonsense ? no ...arrant nonsense

[Pandamasque]

+1 to the first few posters. The left leg story is BS. Are they suggesting he was good overtaking people in the wet in China because of more pressure on the pedal?

[ISLAMATRON]

yes it is absurd to attribute a strong left leg to his passing prowess, but lets look at the claim of 100kg seperately, I've only heard of Webber(a much bigger man) being able to generate so much pedal force. If this report of 100+ kg of force true it is impressive considering how much control he has in the braking zones.

Now in regard to him having so many passes because he starts at the back, he has started out of the top 10 only twice(11 & 20) but yet still has more on track passes than Alonso(19 & 24) who got 5 free ones off the new teams last week.

[Belatti]

I think that it is because he goes for it. When other drivers see the door, they hasitate on passing. Hamilton doesnt. And the driver ahead, many times knows that if he doesnt move, his race can be over, too.

Also you should look at Schumacher being overtaken by him in Chinas hairpin. The control he had to slightly brake to let Schumacher go wide and then push the gas earlier was supreme and a marvel to watch. I think the other drivers doesnt try so hard on different lines as he does.

[Pandamasque]

Also Webber goes for it. Hamilton will remember that well

[mkay]

Why has he got 30-odd overtakings to his name this season?


Its quite simple. For one reason or another, he's qualified worse than where he should have.

Put the 2nd quickest car at the back of the field and watch it carve its way through to the top 10 with almost any driver behind the wheel.

That's one reason. However, LH has overtaken the most 'leading' cars (ie. top 4 teams) by far.

He's overtaken everyone bar Alonso (unless I'm mistaken), though he would have done it, weren't it for Webber smashing him.

[vall]

yes it is absurd to attribute a strong left leg to his passing prowess, but lets look at the claim of 100kg seperately, I've only heard of Webber(a much bigger man) being able to generate so much pedal force. If this report of 100+ kg of force true it is impressive considering how much control he has in the braking zones.

Now in regard to him having so many passes because he starts at the back, he has started out of the top 10 only twice(11 & 20) but yet still has more on track passes than Alonso(19 & 24) who got 5 free ones off the new teams last week.

well, one of Alonso's was Monaco and you do not expect to pass anyone in dry condition, no?

Anyway, do they count passes at the stars? Coz, in one race the heavens opened to LH and he overtook 8 cars or so at the start...

[Tim.Wright]

Just something to add on the stong leg theory...

I have head from a Claude Rouelle seiminar a few years back that the drivers can't physically push hard enough to lock the brakes because the downforce is so hiegh and the tyres have so much grip.

It surprised me then, and I have never had it confirmed since so I'm not particularly inclined to belive it.

Just throwing it out there.

Tim

[Sean H]

as far as comparing Alonso to Hamilton, Alonso has out qualified Hamilton 4 of the 6 races (1 of which Alonso didn't even attempt) so less cars to pass, also, Ferrari hasn't done the multiple pit stops like Macca tried with Lewis which no doubt offered more chances for Lewis to pass as he gives away track position for new tires, allowing him to attack those that he just let by. Had he run 1 stop races, who would he have passed?

Wasn't Bernies quote "They don't pay points for passes." when asked about LH entertaining drives of late.

Lewis should try to have less passes. Webbers last two races are the perfect example.

[D'Leh]

Hamilton certainly is good at overtaking. But others are too. Button showed it last year. Heidfeld and Webber showed it too during their careers. Alonso and Räikkönen showed their overtaking skills as well. It's just that Hamilton gets himself into those positions too often.