Another opinion is Max sent himself to hospital.
He thinks he can get away with being 100% aggressive all the time and today was a lesson in why you have to sometimes just let things go and live to fight another day.
The difference is that Max stuck his car across to the right and that meant that when Hamilton went for the inside, he had less of an angle. As said, racing incident.101FlyingDutchman wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 18:09I think it’s shown that HAM could have positioned his car a lot more to the inside to try to avoid a touch.
It was proper racing, so for me a racing incident but I feel the majority of the blame does lie with Lewis on that accident. I think anyone who looks at it objectively can’t be too far away from that
Maybe mods can close the race threads during the race and point people to discord?El Scorchio wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 18:16It’s utter madness. So many people are consistently posting here based on nothing but hatred and tribalism, with zero thought to anything else.Hoffman900 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 18:13The amount of couch jockeys getting their pants in a wad over a bunch of millionaires and multi-national corporate branding is the biggest bummer in all of this.
I think I'm done here. I came for the technical stuff, but there just really isn't much of that these days.
Today was on another level. Absolute hysteria because it was Hamilton and Verstappen. People need to check their emotions for two seconds before posting.
Artur Craft wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 18:18Was watching WEC, at Monza, just heard that Lewis won by crashing Max out of the race. I´m gonna be away from F1 forums for a while
I agree. I've been saying this for a while now, but the mods made it clear nothing was going to change. Other websites have things in place to limit where new users can post, and make them earn the right to post in certain areas of the forum. Most of the racism and other silly chatter is all coming from users who are relatively new and have zero or sometimes negative ratings. It shouldn't be hard to put something in place to reduce this kind of nonsense.El Scorchio wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 18:16It’s utter madness. So many people are consistently posting here based on nothing but hatred and tribalism, with zero thought to anything else.Hoffman900 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 18:13The amount of couch jockeys getting their pants in a wad over a bunch of millionaires and multi-national corporate branding is the biggest bummer in all of this.
I think I'm done here. I came for the technical stuff, but there just really isn't much of that these days.
Today was on another level. Absolute hysteria because it was Hamilton and Verstappen. People need to check their emotions for two seconds before posting.
I think that's a fair assessment. Max now knows that Hamilton isn't going to give in when squeezed as he has in previous encounters - Hamilton has even publicly stated that he gives Max more room than others. I think Max has thought that's a weakness to be exploited. I think that weakness has officially been rescinded by Hamilton. So now Max will have to account for that going forward through the season. I think we'll actually see some good wheel-to-wheel stuff from them in the season with each giving the other room and not trying to be too heroic where it isn't necessary. I hope so, anyway.bonjon1979 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 19:41I think that the montage of incidents that Hamilton has avoided this year was instructive. Max dive bombing and Lewis turning away to avoid contact. There would have been 3 times max would’ve been penalised for causing a collision but because Lewis took avoiding action that didn’t happen. This felt like a marker, he’s no longer going to back out when the inevitable max turn in/dive bomb happens. Looked like a 60/40 racing incident for me with Hamilton more in the wrong. But neither have any quarter and the penalty maybe felt about right. Outcome for max was bad but you don’t judge incidents on that. It was the faintest of contacts and max could’ve avoided it too.
101FlyingDutchman wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 19:43
Look at the front view and how VER gave space. He was being fair. I guess his “mistake” was that he expected Lewis to keep a tighter line nearer the apex, which didn’t materialise. Lewis left his car out there so as VER turned in to make the corner side by side, the touch was inevitable.
Nasty crash