Liuzzi Vs Ricciardo

[PlatinumZealot]

Is Luizzi not highly regarded by Franz Tost?

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Q: If you could choose from all the youngsters - without the Red Bull restraint - who would you put in your two cockpits?

FT: Well, I think Sebastien (Buemi) and Jaime are doing a good job and I am also really looking forward working together with the other Red Bull youngsters, Daniel Ricciardo and Jean-Eric Vergne. Both have done the young drivers’ days with Toro Rosso last year in Abu Dhabi and Daniel was our third man before he got the opportunity to race for HRT. I expect him to best Liuzzi after not more than three or four races.

It's just a matter of time before Liuzzi turns into Ricciardo's beating stick he says...

Well, Liuzzi used to drive for Torro Rosso, so there must be something that Franz knows and that we don't. Could it be that Luizzi is not that fast or does he really, really rate Ricciardo that much?

Haha... This team battle is going to be a real interesting one. Is Daniel the real deal because Liuizzi seems to be doing a decent job of holding him at bay and It's going to be a big pie in Tost's face if Ricciardo doesn't live up to his reputation.

[raymondu999]

Liuzzi I think is a bit of an unknown. If I remember correctly he wasn't too bad as a krater; it was only when he started having cars with aero that he began to struggle; so it could be an insensitivity to downforce. Given the HRT's lack thereof, Liuzzi could actually be competitive!

[beelsebob]

He's already beaten Liuzi in Qualifying once, and in the race twice, so I think the prediction is probably pretty sound. If you're beating your team mate in only your second race, you're probably a lot better than him.

[Donuts]

Liuzzi is out. Sutil is out. Trulli is out. Schumacher is out. Did I forget anyone? Ofcourse I forgot about Heidfeld and Webber! My opinion. Tired of hearing excuses, especially from Trulli, powersteering still was'nt enough to match Kovalainen in qualifying. Then there's Sutil, not making excuses but confident(arrogant) even thou Di Resta is outqualifying him. Sorry to bring more names in, but similiar cases. Younger driver with limited/less experience outperforming you in qualifying(racepace is just a matter of time) should mean the end(especially if you have no sponsor) to your career. Bring in some youngblood. The old dogs or the crippled one's are biting with their teeth to the seat to hang on. Let them do the testing next year.

[czt]

Liuzzi I think is a bit of an unknown. If I remember correctly he wasn't too bad as a krater; it was only when he started having cars with aero that he began to struggle; so it could be an insensitivity to downforce. Given the HRT's lack thereof, Liuzzi could actually be competitive!

He is a former F3000 champion, so I think he manages ok in aero cars!

[raymondu999]

I don't know... he always struck me as a bit of a Pantano. Good in everything; until he came up to F1

[ESPImperium]

Liuzzi is a great Test Driver, able to set up the car to a T in less laps than the average driver. If Hispania had a Liuzzi last year alongside Senna or Chandhok they would have been better today, but they had money troubles last year.

I rate Liuzzi, but i think he is a P12 to P16 driver on average, with the occasional up to P6 to P8 performance to keep his team mate honest. Which he did last year at Force India. He was flattered with Scott Speed and then kept Sebastian Vettel honest for a few races, then Vettel started to keep him at bay.

Lets face it, Hispania need a good Test Driver until at least half way thru next year with a speedy young gun. By Test Driver, a driver that can race as well, Liuzzi fits the bill here for me, he is a good baseline and a good driver to get good development into the car in the first half of the year, also a good driver for the young driver to learn from as well.

Heidfeld and Trulli are the same as well here, personally i wish they would go as they are moaning too much about the car and seem to be too sensitive to Mechanical or Aero changes when other drivers in the same car are driving around the problem. Id like to see Senna in a Renault in a race or two to see how he is in a decent car and id like to give Trullis car to Valsecchi and Chandhok for the away races for the rest of the season.

As for Schumacher, im giving it one more year for him, its probably gonna be around half the calendar of 2010.

Sutil has a chance, but i see his future as Rubens replacement at Williams as i don't think he is worthy of a seat at one of the top 5 teams.

Young blood is needed, and is there, there are too many dinosaurs, but tje question is how do we get the dinosaurs on their game more and let the young blood on the scene.

[marcush.]

Toro Rosso had one driver really impressing and that was Vettel .Bourdais had a handful of races he was able to just match him ,didn´t he even score points before him? but somehow he did not fit in and was dropped .Liuzzi ,i don´t know how he made it back into Formula 1 maybe I miss something but he has not really impressed.Ricciardo should have wiped the floor with him from the word go.
Senna ,Chandhok ..no sign of champions material to be seen yet.at the rear of the field it´s Kovalainen and Glock who are constantly quick and Ricciardo has to target these two not Liuzzi.
As for the two TR boys ..I don´t see any of them at RedBull sorry and TR is there for nuturing talent so it´s time to give new kids a chance.

[maroko]

i think ricciardo is better coz he has a better instinct and more talent

[raymondu999]

More instinct and talent? Why do you say so?

[Fil]

The only part of this whole thread with any value:

Well, Liuzzi used to drive for Torro Rosso, so there must be something that Franz knows and that we don't. Could it be that Luizzi is not that fast or does he really, really rate Ricciardo that much?

Or Tost regards Liuzzi as a more accurate competitive benchmark than his own TR boys.
Ricciardo has big wraps on him from anyone close to him. Surely Tost is putting the pressure on Ricciardo too.

Toro Rosso had one driver really impressing and that was Vettel.
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As for the two TR boys ..I don´t see any of them at RedBull sorry and TR is there for nuturing talent so it´s time to give new kids a chance.

Buemi & Alguersuari still holding onto their seats shows just how little depth there is to the Red Bull Driver Academy right now.

[raymondu999]

Yes; their even-ness is kind of defatting the point of STR which is supposed to be just a stepping stone to RBR rather than a full-fledged home