John Barnard

[xpensive]

When John Barnard was my guiding engineering light in my younger days, it would be interesting to learn of other's impression of this man of the 80s?

[marcush.]

without a doubt John Barnard was my man and in a ways he still is.Amazing how he changed the sport not with his incredible inventions /innovations but even more with his approach.
Back then he was the lone cowboy specifying "NASA" programms and look how things have developped .
And then look at the level of detail and the beauty of engineering of his work and I know why i always admired the man realising he must be a very demanding person to work with .

[multisync]

I'm sorry but I don't do impressions...

[xpensive]

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And then look at the level of detail and the beauty of engineering of his work and I know why i always admired the man realising he must be a very demanding person to work with .

Clearly, my absolute impression of him was his attention to everyday detail, something I dearly hope learned from.

His rows with Ron Dennis is legendary, something which makes me curious, how did two detatil-men meet in the first place?

[tok-tokkie]

xpensive. Would you amplify with some examples of his work that you admire & why you admire it (including comparisons to what others were doing at the time). I would like to learn.

[xpensive]

If you think Caronfibre, canard wings, semi-automatic gears and suspension flextures.

Then if you add the work he did with Porsche and you can see a mountain of a man.

[timbo]

canard wings

Canard wings?


Well, my impression was that he generated great concepts, but rarely was interested enough in developing them to ripe the fruit of his labor.

[xpensive]

Those funny extentions of the floor ahead of the rear wheels, with air-speed higher over than under he gained downforce,
John thought of everything.

[timbo]

with air-speed higher over than under he gained downforce,

That gives lift=)

Care to post a picture?

[xpensive]

with air-speed higher over than under he gained downforce,

That gives lift=)

Care to post a picture?

Ooops, the air above is hindered by the wheel why it creates an airspeed lower than beneath, thus groundforce.

Bernoulli in action, wich I Believe certain members should study before posting on vorterxes, stalling and such.

[Sombrero]

http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/cref-barjoh.html

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/op ... a-1-today/

The first things that come in my mind about John Barnard are :

1) The Chaparral 2K
2) The carbon-fibre McLaren MP4
3) Kenny Roberts and his Moto GP Team

[marcush.]

think about coke bottle rear end shape ,high nose ,complete set of peadls and pedalbox in CF ,Fabricated Gearbox housing in Steel and later Titanium , Not entirely sure but it could well be that he introduced cf suspension components.

And now for those who doubt:

His work was starting with :FDD GTO and B3 Technologies 2 times he persuaded Maranello to move all car design and critical parts manufacture to UK,TOM´s Toyota (later known as RTN now Lotus/Caterham development center,Benneton /Enstone now Renault err Lotus and Leafield formerly Arrows .his first step as a technical director was always to build a state of the art facility -you need a proper foundation to build top quality.all the high tech and systematic aproach is highly influenced by Barnard pushing the boundarys in the same ways as Senna and Prost were as drivers.
how much he had input in Mclarens facility back then ,I don´t know but sure he was instrumental in making ron dennis the man who formed Mclaren to the jewel producing the work of art in every detail year in year out.


His work in formula 1 started with Mclaren M23 and Parnelli btw..

Interview part 1 in vintage racer this month:

http://www.vintageracecar.com/pages/thi ... magiid=286

[xpensive]

The Chaparral 2K was in it's Pennzoil livery perhaps the most beautiful open-wheeler ever seen.

Thanks for reminding me sombrero.

[Gerhard Berger]

Only started watching F1 in the mid 90s so I only remember his last few Ferrari's and the Arrows cars he designed. Neither were that impressive.

[marcush.]

http://www.f1-dictionary.110mb.com/gearbox.html

Barnard not that impressive? jesus christ ..without him Formula 1 today would be defintely not the same.We would have had the lives of Berger ,Alesi,Panis and many many more claimed not to forget ...mclaren would be not existing anymore and Schumachers titles with Ferrari would not have happened as he was one reason why he went there in the first place.
Give the man credit he was definitely caught out by aero becoming the main dominating factor and Newey and byrne excelled more in that area.

We should not forget the first reliable cf casing gearbox he did for arrows and the ingenius internal dogring gear arrangement that shortened gearbox total length considerably...I don´tz think there is any team in formula 1 that has not been heavily influenced by Johns masterful expertise.