Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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DutchPanther wrote:
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All thanks to Wazari-San and team for all their hard work behind the CNT cells
The cnt cells was a different team and group of researchers.

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Their cells are made by Saft, not Honda.

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LaplacesDemon wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:52 pm
Their cells are made by Saft, not Honda.
What F1 era are you talking about? Their new ES last year was developed by "Honda R&D Co., Ltd (Innovative Research Excellence) and Honda Motor Co. Ltd. (Automobile Operations Monozukuri Center), specifically from the road car battery development team."

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ispano6 wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:46 am
LaplacesDemon wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:52 pm
Their cells are made by Saft, not Honda.
What F1 era are you talking about? Their new ES last year was developed by "Honda R&D Co., Ltd (Innovative Research Excellence) and Honda Motor Co. Ltd. (Automobile Operations Monozukuri Center), specifically from the road car battery development team."
Current era.
The ESS was developed by Honda but the cells are sourced from Saft as is common practice. Currently Saft and A123 supply all current engine manufacturers on the grid.

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LaplacesDemon wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:23 am
ispano6 wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:46 am
LaplacesDemon wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:52 pm
Their cells are made by Saft, not Honda.
What F1 era are you talking about? Their new ES last year was developed by "Honda R&D Co., Ltd (Innovative Research Excellence) and Honda Motor Co. Ltd. (Automobile Operations Monozukuri Center), specifically from the road car battery development team."
Current era.
The ESS was developed by Honda but the cells are sourced from Saft as is common practice. Currently Saft and A123 supply all current engine manufacturers on the grid.
You mean to say Honda outsourced the manufacturing of the Honda developed cells. The carbon nanotube innovation is unique to Honda and Saft nor A123 are supplying these cells to other manufacturers. Honda hasn't outwardly mentioned Saft or A123, so what you say is based on insider knowledge?

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Sometimes you gotta lower those spectacles. Honda is like most other car companies. They do not literally make every componwnt in their cars.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:46 pm
Sometimes you gotta lower those spectacles. Honda is like most other car companies. They do not literally make every componwnt in their cars.
You always have issue with and downplay Honda's innovations, but have you actually seen the diagrams of the carbon nanotubes orientation that depict their novel application that set it apart from conventional applications. Same goes for their kumasei-mekki plating. These are difference making innovations that have helped propel RedBull to the top.

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Apparantly Max was running the new ERS
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DutchPanther wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:27 pm
Apparantly Max was running the new ERS
The source of that tweet's information is this one:


Where, forgive me if I'm wrong, Donadoni simply says max has a new ES and new CE. Not necessarily new specification.

Furthermore, using formula Uno's information for any team other than Ferrari is.. wayward. They've been wrong many, many times this season alone

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organic wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:31 am
DutchPanther wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:27 pm
Apparantly Max was running the new ERS
The source of that tweet's information is this one:


Where, forgive me if I'm wrong, Donadoni simply says max has a new ES and new CE. Not necessarily new specification.

Furthermore, using formula Uno's information for any team other than Ferrari is.. wayward. They've been wrong many, many times this season alone
Ah, thanks for pointing that out, If that's the performance with old spec, can't wait for new one
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ispano6 wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:00 pm
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:46 pm
Sometimes you gotta lower those spectacles. Honda is like most other car companies. They do not literally make every componwnt in their cars.
You always have issue with and downplay Honda's innovations, but have you actually seen the diagrams of the carbon nanotubes orientation that depict their novel application that set it apart from conventional applications. Same goes for their kumasei-mekki plating. These are difference making innovations that have helped propel RedBull to the top.
Wasn't it Kumabou metal nor honda?

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lucafo wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:06 pm
ispano6 wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:00 pm
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:46 pm
Sometimes you gotta lower those spectacles. Honda is like most other car companies. They do not literally make every componwnt in their cars.
You always have issue with and downplay Honda's innovations, but have you actually seen the diagrams of the carbon nanotubes orientation that depict their novel application that set it apart from conventional applications. Same goes for their kumasei-mekki plating. These are difference making innovations that have helped propel RedBull to the top.
Wasn't it Kumabou metal nor honda?
It was developed by a Honda engineer(motorcycle division) in the Honda Giken Kougyou, Kumamoto Seisakusho factory. In one of the NHK documentaries this engineer was shown in a segment where he was credited for it, the company that did the plating might have been Kumabou though it was not ever acknowledged. In both the documentary and related articles it only mentions All-Honda, so that likely includes its subsidiaries and partners. This engineer was particularly nervous when the documentary crew was filming him as he watched the first race it was introduced but was relieved afterwards.

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I would really want to watch The documentary from NHK can some please Give me a link or anything I’m even willing to pay to watch it I am in Canada we get nothing good over here😭

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anthonyfa18 wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:05 pm
I would really want to watch The documentary from NHK can some please Give me a link or anything I’m even willing to pay to watch it I am in Canada we get nothing good over here😭
This one is the latest. (It refers to the 2021 season)
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1aL4y1474g/

You can find from previous years also in bilibili.