Kimi's engine troubles

kkobayash · Post 17 Mar 2006, 08:20

hey, its always been in the back of my mind that kimi seems to push pretty hard in all sessions of a weekend. His driving style, being really aggressive over the curbs etc. also indicates this.

This was seen in bahrain as well as all throughout last year i think, where kimi was most of the time in top 5 runners of any session just about.

Do you guys think this has nething to do with his engine always dieing on him? Even tho everyone knows that Mercedes power isnt the most reliable out there, i dont think Montoya had nearly as many failures as kimi last season.

Also, looking at last weekends gp in bahrain, even tho montoya/mclaren have indicated that they did have a problem with his engine, it still didnt die on him did it. mayb this is smarter racing...compared to kimi's balls out style of either hero or zero. not taking away nething from kimi, i love the way he drives, makes for exciting racing, but maybe he should just turn the aggresion down abit, get smoother.

wat do u guys think?

ss.vamsikrishna · Post 17 Mar 2006, 09:35

i dont think so , it will make a engine to fail ..... come this f1 is about pushing hard, and everybody does that and engineers have to take care of
this and engine manf. takes care about this.i dont think this is the reason
sorry ..............he is just unlucky ........mercedes engine is unreliable

FLC · Post 17 Mar 2006, 13:22

the driving style of a driver has a big influence on the components of the car. one of them is the engine. i dont know if kimi is being too aggressive, only his engineers can tell, but F1 is not only about pushing as hard as you can at all times. you need to know when to push hard and when to push less. to save the tyres, sometimes even save fuel. and to protect the engine. if you downshift like a crazy man and let the revs go wild, or wait till the last min. till you change gears up, than ofcourse the engine will eventually fail. espcially if its not a reliable one.

Jason · Post 17 Mar 2006, 13:27

FLC wrote:the driving style of a driver has a big influence on the components of the car. one of them is the engine. i dont know if kimi is being too aggressive, only his engineers can tell, but F1 is not only about pushing as hard as you can at all times. you need to know when to push hard and when to push less. to save the tyres, sometimes even save fuel. and to protect the engine. if you downshift like a crazy man and let the revs go wild, or wait till the last min. till you change gears up, than ofcourse the engine will eventually fail. espcially if its not a reliable one.

I can't understand...Mercedes is not used to V8 or their workers are not createting the engine propely?

dumrick · Post 17 Mar 2006, 15:52

Jason wrote:I can't understand...Mercedes is not used to V8 or their workers are not createting the engine propely?

What I can't get is that question. We are at the 2nd grand prix of the season, I've seen a Ferrari engine in trouble, a BMW exploding, there's a Toyota and a Renault that have been changed for this GP... and the Mercedes seem to be ok. Apparently, Montoya's problem is solved and wasn't engine-related...

Jason · Post 17 Mar 2006, 15:55

The problem is it's the weakest on the grid....

715 HP if I'm not mistaken

wowf1 · Post 17 Mar 2006, 18:27

Don't believe every piece of information you read Jason...I think that bit of info probably originated in one of the F1 magazines, which as we know like to speculate on things like horsepower. However, it's usually bollocks.

tOrnike · Post 17 Mar 2006, 18:33

It's quite logical to think of it (Mercedes' failures on Kimi's (and not JPM's) car because of the driving style) but I don't think so - firstly because Kimi isn't a driver who just likes to drive flat out on each lap - he's a consistent, calm and calculating man who can follow team orders perfectly (and I don't think that team who sees all the telemetry will order him to drive on the limit all the time); and secondly, last season Montoya had some problems too (Hungary, France and China if I'm not mistaken) but these problems weren't engine failures and they haven't also been the case with Kimi - he was let down by driveshaft in San Marino, hydraulics in Germany and suspension in Europe. His engine did die several times, but only in practices and I think that's what should be analyzed.

Venom · Post 17 Mar 2006, 22:04

Montoya was complaining about his car being slow, aparently the engine problem.
So I wouldn't say that he wasn't pushing hard?

Tom · Post 18 Mar 2006, 00:16

The problem is it's the weakest on the grid.... 715 HP if I'm not mistaken

Bear in mind, HP is not nessiceraly an indication of speed.

To have a successful car you can't just grab an engine and win.

taleed · Post 19 Mar 2006, 20:11

Poor guy....he has been really unlucky in Sepang.
I loved his great comeback in Bahrain.