Haas VF-18 Ferrari

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Haas VF-18 Ferrari

Post by turbof1 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:48 am

This is the Haas VF-18 Ferrari offical car thread.

Please discuss ONLY technical items of this car, and refrain from speculation.

General discussion about the team, its drivers and performance can be posted in the team thread.
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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by Fulcrum » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:22 pm

Could 2018 be the year when Haas finally finds itself the worst constructor?

McLaren will surely leap frog them, and I suspect Toro Rosso - in spite of the Honda engine - will also score more points. Williams and Renault should both be significantly faster next year too.

Sauber are likely to be their only competition for the wooden spoon. Sauber won't have an engine handicap anymore, and they should also have more money to develop their chassis.

In addition, Sauber have a much better racing pedigree than Haas. Sauber know how to set-up cars, they know how to race well on a small budget. By comparison, how many weekends have we seen Haas experience issues with components like brakes? At times, they give the impression they don't know what they're doing.

I'm not trying to denigrate Haas - someone has to be last - but I don't foresee their relative performance improving in 2018 unless Ferrari supply an absolute donkey of an engine - in which case Sauber would benefit from it as well.

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by GM7 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:50 pm

Fulcrum wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:22 pm
Could 2018 be the year when Haas finally finds itself the worst constructor?

McLaren will surely leap frog them, and I suspect Toro Rosso - in spite of the Honda engine - will also score more points. Williams and Renault should both be significantly faster next year too.

Sauber are likely to be their only competition for the wooden spoon. Sauber won't have an engine handicap anymore, and they should also have more money to develop their chassis.

In addition, Sauber have a much better racing pedigree than Haas. Sauber know how to set-up cars, they know how to race well on a small budget. By comparison, how many weekends have we seen Haas experience issues with components like brakes? At times, they give the impression they don't know what they're doing.

I'm not trying to denigrate Haas - someone has to be last - but I don't foresee their relative performance improving in 2018 unless Ferrari supply an absolute donkey of an engine - in which case Sauber would benefit from it as well.
Hard to say, they stopped the development of the 2017 car very early because they wanted to make big changes on the 2018 car. The problems of brakes seem to be solved since the mid season but there are still tire management issues. For the first time next season, they will have data to build on to setup the car.

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by Morteza » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:02 pm

Here's the unveiling!



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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by MtthsMlw » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:03 pm

Ferrari style sidepods!

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by bauc » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:06 pm

Finally the first 2018 car, thanky ou HAAS

It looks very slick and the livery is much better. I like how the HALO does not stand up, it kinda looks like it belongs on the car (I KNOW RIGHT :cry: )
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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by MtthsMlw » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:07 pm

More pictures via AMuS

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by Morteza » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:10 pm

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by Sevach » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:20 pm

Very detailed for a launch spec.

Ferrari sidepods, interesting deflectors, FW...

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by GoranF1 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:30 pm

Sevach wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:20 pm
Very detailed for a launch spec.

Ferrari sidepods, interesting deflectors, FW...
Ferrari sidepods but bigger openings?
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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by F1NAC » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:37 pm

Interesting look at low t wing

Also no s duct visible

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by Santozini » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:56 pm

Still quite a big shark fin..I was expecting something smaller given the new regs.. :roll:

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by F1Fan2018 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:58 pm

The Halo doesn't actually look out of place, i know there only renders of the car so will have to wait until real pictures of the cars but that looks better than I first thought it would do. also arent they allowed to put fairings on them for areo? if so im guessing that might wait till testing to show us.

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by F1Fan2018 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:58 pm

I also like the Livery it looks really good.