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Outside of major cities where charging is plentiful, the EV market will never take off in my opinion. The infrastructure isnt there for it, no access to rapid charging so people have to go out their way to charge up quickly - unless they have space at home with a charger. Isnt going to happen in many streets where there is no household vehicle parking and your lucky to get outside your front door most days. Then cables over the streets/pathways. Nah. unrealistic.

I think the its going to be about hydrogen next and we will never see a full EV market - and people certainly arent going to go out their way to sell their ICE which can get them 5-600miles off a tank of fuel.

Off the line performance of EV's might be good (even with a heavy battery) but get them up to speed where power counts and your not getting anywhere very fast (100-200kmh)
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chrisc90 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:55 pm
Outside of major cities where charging is plentiful, the EV market will never take off in my opinion. The infrastructure isnt there for it, no access to rapid charging so people have to go out their way to charge up quickly - unless they have space at home with a charger. Isnt going to happen in many streets where there is no household vehicle parking and your lucky to get outside your front door most days. Then cables over the streets/pathways. Nah. unrealistic.

I think the its going to be about hydrogen next and we will never see a full EV market - and people certainly arent going to go out their way to sell their ICE which can get them 5-600miles off a tank of fuel.

Off the line performance of EV's might be good (even with a heavy battery) but get them up to speed where power counts and your not getting anywhere very fast (100-200kmh)
The rural areas will adapt to EV when John Deere starts making them🤣

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Zynerji wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:49 pm
chrisc90 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:55 pm
Outside of major cities where charging is plentiful, the EV market will never take off in my opinion. The infrastructure isnt there for it, no access to rapid charging so people have to go out their way to charge up quickly - unless they have space at home with a charger. Isnt going to happen in many streets where there is no household vehicle parking and your lucky to get outside your front door most days. Then cables over the streets/pathways. Nah. unrealistic.

I think the its going to be about hydrogen next and we will never see a full EV market - and people certainly arent going to go out their way to sell their ICE which can get them 5-600miles off a tank of fuel.

Off the line performance of EV's might be good (even with a heavy battery) but get them up to speed where power counts and your not getting anywhere very fast (100-200kmh)
The rural areas will adapt to EV when John Deere starts making them🤣
Haha :D

In all seriousness though. I live in a small village thats between 2 smaller towns and about 20-25minutes away from the nearest cities. I know the one town where I work has no EV chargers there you can use and not sure how many are in the other. 20minutes further inland and your in the weardale hills and even a petrol station is few and far between.
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Nice to see our Honda engineer on the podium with Max in Spa!!! Awesome work Honda!!!

(power unit chief Makoto Yoshino)
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To this day I can not fathom Honda's decision to quit f1. Imagine the publicity they'd be harnessing this year in Japan and around the world. Seriously that former CEO should probably be trialled in court for criminal negligence for taking that route, or sued by current management at the very least.

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ispano6 wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:45 pm
Nice to see our Honda engineer on the podium with Max in Spa!!! Awesome work Honda!!!
Indeed !!

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The Power of Honda!

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Yup it was so happy to see honda go up to the podium, honda should of never pulled out, just keep HRC to run f1 and other motorsports. And if hrc need help bring in mugen

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Honda always said they use f1 to develop technology and train engineers,in other word they dont race in f1.they race in indy and moto gp.honda started as a bike company so i doubt they will never leave moto gp. Honda have been developing pu for almost a decade so staying would have meant spending lots of money as finding performance gains with mature tech is difficult so a compromised solution was found.the Honda name will return next year,and Hrc is still on the car any hardcore fan know was that.Rbr didnt have any renault branding they had Tag heuer but renault still got some form of publicity good or bad.

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ispano6 wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:45 pm
Nice to see our Honda engineer on the podium with Max in Spa!!! Awesome work Honda!!!

(power unit chief Makoto Yoshino)
When I saw that I immediately felt like this is an "admission" (without confirming or denying anything) that Max was running the new spec ERS? Of course, could just as well juts be a token of gratitude overall.
Controversy does not have a short memory.

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Sieper wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:48 am
ispano6 wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:45 pm
Nice to see our Honda engineer on the podium with Max in Spa!!! Awesome work Honda!!!

(power unit chief Makoto Yoshino)
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When I saw that I immediately felt like this is an "admission" (without confirming or denying anything) that Max was running the new spec ERS? Of course, could just as well juts be a token of gratitude overall.
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Yes, Max was running the new ERS system and this was a token of gratitude for Honda.
Perez didn't have that and was much slower, but drove great.
The Power of Honda!

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Wouter wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:56 am
Sieper wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:48 am
ispano6 wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:45 pm
Nice to see our Honda engineer on the podium with Max in Spa!!! Awesome work Honda!!!

(power unit chief Makoto Yoshino)
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When I saw that I immediately felt like this is an "admission" (without confirming or denying anything) that Max was running the new spec ERS? Of course, could just as well juts be a token of gratitude overall.
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Yes, Max was running the new ERS system and this was a token of gratitude for Honda.
Perez didn't have that and was much slower, but drove great.
was it official stated that Honda has brought new update to the power unit or just speculating .The most striking feature of that red bull car throughout the season has been its great top speed ,i still think Max would have obliterated the field even without those alleged updates.

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Wouter wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:56 am
Sieper wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:48 am
ispano6 wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:45 pm
Nice to see our Honda engineer on the podium with Max in Spa!!! Awesome work Honda!!!

(power unit chief Makoto Yoshino)
.
When I saw that I immediately felt like this is an "admission" (without confirming or denying anything) that Max was running the new spec ERS? Of course, could just as well juts be a token of gratitude overall.
.
Yes, Max was running the new ERS system and this was a token of gratitude for Honda.
Perez didn't have that and was much slower, but drove great.
So few comments on that, that part of the deficit of Perez was due to the new ERS that Max had.

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Wouter wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:56 am
Sieper wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:48 am
ispano6 wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:45 pm
Nice to see our Honda engineer on the podium with Max in Spa!!! Awesome work Honda!!!

(power unit chief Makoto Yoshino)
.
When I saw that I immediately felt like this is an "admission" (without confirming or denying anything) that Max was running the new spec ERS? Of course, could just as well juts be a token of gratitude overall.
.
Yes, Max was running the new ERS system and this was a token of gratitude for Honda.
Perez didn't have that and was much slower, but drove great.
Watching the telemetry Max’s deployment was identical to Perez. Hitting the exact same speeds on the flat sections. I think they were running identical specs. And it has yet to be confirmed from a credible source there even is a new ERS upgrade.

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Cs98 wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:49 am
Wouter wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:56 am
Sieper wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:48 am

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When I saw that I immediately felt like this is an "admission" (without confirming or denying anything) that Max was running the new spec ERS? Of course, could just as well juts be a token of gratitude overall.
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Yes, Max was running the new ERS system and this was a token of gratitude for Honda.
Perez didn't have that and was much slower, but drove great.
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I think they were running identical specs.

And it has yet to be confirmed from a credible source there even is a new ERS upgrade.
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You may think what you will think. I know what I know.
Why do you think power unit chief Makoto Yoshino was on the podium? For Fun?!
The Power of Honda!

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Red Bull getting cold feet over the Porsche deal according to Amus, worried about the influence of Porsche with a 50% share, willing to explore other options.

Maybe the rumoured Honda offer to buy has turned their heads?