Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

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Lol so the noses had to be low to the ground not to slice someones head of and now they came up with a halo tin opener lol

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Another angle of the halo and the new mirrors
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How it looks in action
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I think the mirrors and winglets actually make the halo look better and like it has an aero purpose instead of just plonked on the car.

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Morteza wrote:
11 May 2018, 00:40
How it looks in action
A right mess, IMHO.

Intriguing from an engineering perspective. But aesthetically awful.

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I don't think they will stay this far behind Mercedes in FP2, but if they do, it will be interesting to see if the mirrors and wings are changed back to the traditional setup.

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Ferrari trial halo-mounted mirrors

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Ferrari trial halo-mounted mirrors - Development blog

Ferrari showed up at Barcelona with new wing mirror supports. Instead of the attachment to the chassis shoulders, the wing mirrors are linked to the halo. The team have meanwhile also added a winglet just above the mirror housing, perfectly shading the mirror itself when looking at the car from above.

It was only between the Chinese and Azerbaijan Grand Prix that the FIA announced that mirrors could also be attached to the halo. The Technical Directive was a response to the decreasing rearward visibility for drivers, especially since the aerodynamic regulation changes of 2017 that introduced wider and lower rear wings. It was felt that the increase of on-track incidents was the result of this, so more leeway way given to the designers.

However, as ever with opening up regulations, teams were quick to analyse how the change could be exploited to increase performance, and Ferrari was obviously quickest, being able to design, optimise and manufacture the winglet and new mounting in less than 4 weeks.

As the different mounting is unlikely to really offer a performance advantage, the new winglet may provide exactly this. It is clear from the shape that it aims to direct air downward, in line with the upper shape of the sidepods. This should eventually have a (minor) effect on the efficiency of the rear wing. The mirrors themselves remain unchanged and continue to feature the unique open housing

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Central section is new.
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f300v10 wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 14:38
The central section boat tail has gone back to having a more well defined angular channel, similar to last year but not as pronounced. Gone is the flatter, more rounded solution from late 2017, and all of 2018 to date. They have also included the winglet on the outer edge, first seen in FP1 in Melbourne.

The new profile reduces the AOA of the central section, likely improving the stability of the flow, with a slight reduction in total expansion. I assume they are trading a small amount of total downforce for more consistent/stable downforce by keeping the central flow attached over a broader working range.
So the central diffusor update I thought was there back at Bahrain but wasn't (quote above), has now actually happened. Clearly Ferrari engineers read my post and thought it was a good idea. :D

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The outer section is different too, right? It looks a bit more curvy especially the second 'flap'.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
11 May 2018, 18:38
The outer section is different too, right? It looks a bit more curvy especially the second 'flap'.
Agreed, the middle flap clearly has a different contour at its edge , the corner is more rounded. Hard to say about the inner flap as the angle of the two photos is slightly different which makes comparing the exact shapes difficult.

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So, is the RW new too since it's painted with flo-viz?

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MtthsMlw wrote:
11 May 2018, 21:20
So, is the RW new too since it's painted with flo-viz?
Maybe, but they also could test the effects of the changes on the car downstream, or simply verify the data from the wind tunnel on the different track.