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It's even better, the are Vortex Generators that redirect the Airflow around the Top of the Sidepod. :wink:
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So why doesn't any other team use vortex generators?

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charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 12:10
So why doesn't any other team use vortex generators?
Why do teams have different noses and different FW and Different bargeboard area and different floor? :!: :?: :-({|= :-({|=

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charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 12:10
So why doesn't any other team use vortex generators?
Different sidepod shapes. No one really uses that sidepod shape anymore. The McLaren variant forces a very sharp downturn to the sidepod which requires vortices for the flow to keep attached.

Teams have found different ways to retain the effects, and imo you can be much more creative with a horizontal element over the top of the sidepod.
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would it be possible for McLaren to switch to this concept mid season, or even over the winter?

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charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:00
would it be possible for McLaren to switch to this concept mid season, or even over the winter?
If you mean a Ferrari-style solution with the crash structure on the bottom the answer is no, as it would require an all-new chassis and aero concept. They could, however, adopt the Mercedes solution.
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ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:07
charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:00
would it be possible for McLaren to switch to this concept mid season, or even over the winter?
If you mean a Ferrari-style solution with the crash structure on the bottom the answer is no, as it would require an all-new chassis and aero concept. They could, however, adopt the Mercedes solution.
What concept do redbull have? It would seem more likely for McLaren to copy them

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charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:08
ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:07
charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:00
would it be possible for McLaren to switch to this concept mid season, or even over the winter?
If you mean a Ferrari-style solution with the crash structure on the bottom the answer is no, as it would require an all-new chassis and aero concept. They could, however, adopt the Mercedes solution.
What concept do redbull have? It would seem more likely for McLaren to copy them
It’s far more similar to Ferrari. Would not fit this car right now.
What Mercedes have done instead is moved the sidepod entry backwards and reshaped the turning vanes to suit, whilst keeping the crash structure in position. This was most probably done to solve issues with airflow off the sidepods as pointed out earlier.
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charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:08
ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:07
charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:00
would it be possible for McLaren to switch to this concept mid season, or even over the winter?
If you mean a Ferrari-style solution with the crash structure on the bottom the answer is no, as it would require an all-new chassis and aero concept. They could, however, adopt the Mercedes solution.
What concept do redbull have?
Rad inlet on top of the upper side crash structure. McLaren and Merc's are beneath.

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charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 12:10
So why doesn't any other team use vortex generators?
Mercedes does, copied them straight from McLaren.

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They only used them in monaco

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charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 22:37
They only used them in monaco
You sure it was only in Monaco? I thought they had them in more races as well. They have for sure tho the same rear wing endplates as Renault does as well.

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ALO_Power wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 22:36
charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 12:10
So why doesn't any other team use vortex generators?
Mercedes does, copied them straight from McLaren.
Incorrect - Mercedes used them several years ago on the W04 and W05

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Lots of teams used them pre 2017, but now it only seems like McLaren uses them. I think Williams used them last year as well

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mantikos wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 22:47
ALO_Power wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 22:36
charliesmithhd wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 12:10
So why doesn't any other team use vortex generators?
Mercedes does, copied them straight from McLaren.
Incorrect - Mercedes used them several years ago on the W04 and W05
Wasn't talking about all years. I mean with post 2017 regulations which imo it makes sense to compare.