McLaren MCL33

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Looks like a complete departure from their previous nose philosophy, which is interesting considering how much it was copied this year.

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dren wrote:
10 May 2018, 18:53
How is this leaving everyone else behind? It's basically a mash up of ideas that others have been using. The only thing different are the side pieces. If Mercedes thought they were beneficial they'd likely have added those to their thin nose. We shall see...
Not necessarily. EB said this was a new aero philosophy. What McL is doing here may work with their own philosophy but not necessarily Merc’s as well

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Vegetabill wrote:
10 May 2018, 18:54
Mirror attached to the halo?
No, top of the chassis

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MtthsMlw wrote:
10 May 2018, 18:55
dren wrote:
10 May 2018, 18:53
How is this leaving everyone else behind? It's basically a mash up of ideas that others have been using. The only thing different are the side pieces. If Mercedes thought they were beneficial they'd likely have added those to their thin nose. We shall see...
Don't wanna be that guy but I don't think the nose itself has a big influence on overall performance.
It most likely doesn't, it just allows for the rest of the package to work.

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PhillipM wrote:
10 May 2018, 18:58
Vegetabill wrote:
10 May 2018, 18:54
Mirror attached to the halo?
No, top of the chassis
Ah, I see on the other pictures now. They’re coming fast!

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So this new nose doesn't seem to have any external adjustable parts? If not then this is just to speed up and clean up the air travelling over the diffuser (efficiency)? I know I may be asking a dumb question but normally someone in the know clarifies it quite quickly. We just want to understand what makes this nose significant.
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MtthsMlw wrote:
10 May 2018, 18:55
dren wrote:
10 May 2018, 18:53
How is this leaving everyone else behind? It's basically a mash up of ideas that others have been using. The only thing different are the side pieces. If Mercedes thought they were beneficial they'd likely have added those to their thin nose. We shall see...
Don't wanna be that guy but I don't think the nose itself has a big influence on overall performance.
Possibly this nose is what the rest of the car was designed for, so could be far more effective than the 'temp' one?
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I guess we will see the whole package tomorrow.

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Big Tea wrote:
10 May 2018, 19:03
MtthsMlw wrote:
10 May 2018, 18:55
dren wrote:
10 May 2018, 18:53
How is this leaving everyone else behind? It's basically a mash up of ideas that others have been using. The only thing different are the side pieces. If Mercedes thought they were beneficial they'd likely have added those to their thin nose. We shall see...
Don't wanna be that guy but I don't think the nose itself has a big influence on overall performance.
Possibly this nose is what the rest of the car was designed for, so could be far more effective than the 'temp' one?
Simply put, the nose and turning vanes are setting up the airflow for the bareboards. I guess this nose brings more 'controlled' air to the bargeboards which improves performance.

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Those sidepods looks slimmer than before.

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Doesn’t look like sidepods have changed much.

That nose scares me now. It will either get them a second like was whispered or be a huge drag like the mushroom suspension. Ultimately I trust PP knows what he’s doing

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FvtecA wrote:
10 May 2018, 19:14
Those sidepods looks slimmer than before.
Side pods are the same. You can still see the old barge board mounting point painted over
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It seems there is no S-duct still, at least I don't see anywhere outlets

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I wonder, why they changed the lower part of rear wing from orange to black. Does someone see anything different there?