2022 Aerodynamic Regulations Thread

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FW17 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 09:52
LMP cars have far larger wheel arches and no chance of the driver seeing the apex, and they all get around
LMP cars don't race on street circuits like Monaco...
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 09:54
FW17 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 09:52
LMP cars have far larger wheel arches and no chance of the driver seeing the apex, and they all get around
LMP cars don't race on street circuits like Monaco...

Should be easier in Monaco to use the walls as references to the apex

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FW17 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 10:11
Just_a_fan wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 09:54
FW17 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 09:52
LMP cars have far larger wheel arches and no chance of the driver seeing the apex, and they all get around
LMP cars don't race on street circuits like Monaco...

Should be easier in Monaco to use the walls as references to the apex
Sounds so simple... :wtf:
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W4aR-a ... =ChainBear


Nice Tyre related video... Not sure where to post it... Hope here is ok ??

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First insights from within the FIA about how alarmed or at ease they are about the developments and solution teams have brought to their cars under these new regulations. Interesting. There may be no obvious Brawn-esque innovation to sweep away the titles this year, but rather a better job by whoever gets their car working best.

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The FIA has seen “a few surprises” in the designs of the 2022 Formula 1 cars across the public launches and its own behind-the-scenes inspections.

The FIA has seen more of the car designs than anybody because in addition to the launches, there are individual sessions taking place with each team to “track the legalities so that we try to avoid any nasty surprises in the first race,” according to the FIA’s Nikolas Tombazis.

“We have seen a few surprises here and there,” said Tombazis.

Some areas where cars are a bit more different between them than what we expected and where engineers have applied their innovative skills to come up with a solution.

“I think you will see a lot more differentiation than maybe you were expecting to start with.

I wouldn’t say there’s been any massive alarm bells so far. It’s been relatively mild – still within what we think is a completely fair interpretation of the rules.”

We haven’t seen anything equivalent to a double diffuser or anything like that!”


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I wonder if Newey will take this comment from Brawn as a little dig
that the cars are going to race in a lower stance – [previous cars] they’ve looked a bit silly, these high-rake cars, sort of perched on their nose, and they never really looked like a racing car should look.

“These ones will look a lot better out on the tracks.”

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Kyle’s videos are coming thick and fast now! Here’s the Alfa Romeo analysis.

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Looks like they want to get airflow under the plank. There are two vortices that form along the plank area, it looks like a surfboard crossed with a neutral airfoil. Those diveplanes on the bib, probably strengthen those inboard vortices.
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mclaren111 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 11:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W4aR-a ... =ChainBear


Nice Tyre related video... Not sure where to post it... Hope here is ok ??
2022 Tyres Thread?

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mzso wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 21:58
mclaren111 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 11:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W4aR-a ... =ChainBear


Nice Tyre related video... Not sure where to post it... Hope here is ok ??
2022 Tyres Thread?

Thank you sir...

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there's some nice footage of what these new cars are doing with wet weather wake in this short clip. You can see how the trail is interacting live behind the W13 as it goes straight and around the corner. The wake is definitely up high.


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FW17 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 10:11
Just_a_fan wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 09:54
FW17 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 09:52
LMP cars have far larger wheel arches and no chance of the driver seeing the apex, and they all get around
LMP cars don't race on street circuits like Monaco...

Should be easier in Monaco to use the walls as references to the apex
Yeah surely its apex kerbs the drivers are worried about not being able to see

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Just_a_fan wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 09:54
FW17 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 09:52
LMP cars have far larger wheel arches and no chance of the driver seeing the apex, and they all get around
LMP cars don't race on street circuits like Monaco...
Does anyone remember IMSA racing in Baltimore?

The drivers will get use to it.

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I remember that crashfest.
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AeroDynamic wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 15:22
there's some nice footage of what these new cars are doing with wet weather wake in this short clip. You can see how the trail is interacting live behind the W13 as it goes straight and around the corner. The wake is definitely up high.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1saY4MrWnT8
A shot with much vapour wake, again trying to isolate detail from it for Aero people!

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AeroDynamic wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:41
AeroDynamic wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 15:22
there's some nice footage of what these new cars are doing with wet weather wake in this short clip. You can see how the trail is interacting live behind the W13 as it goes straight and around the corner. The wake is definitely up high.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1saY4MrWnT8
A shot with much vapour wake, again trying to isolate detail from it for Aero people!

https://i.imgur.com/9xcS9TK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yUNHqks.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RWz436a.jpg
Appreciate the intent. You can see the rooster tail confined to mainly the car body, so just from that you can say the rules are a relative success in their intent. Now whether that actually improves racing, I kind of doubt it, but it can't be any worse than what we've had before. Maybe it will just take some getting used to because there are all sorts of new parts of the brain that you have to use to get the most out of the new regulations.

I just see these cars as a series of ducts/tubes.
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