2019 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, May 23-26

[Big Tea]

I know it is a shame Max has a penalty but still came out on the gain side.

5 seconds or 2 more cars infront of him? I would take 5 seconds. Especially with the possibility of rain tyres or safety car and fresh rubber still looming.
He would have found it just as hard to pass Vetel and Botas as he did with Hamilton.

On the other side of the coin, the time from Botas leaving the pitbox minus the reaction time of the RBR crew would not leave much time for Max to get in the lane, but the real offense was what he did once the cars were side by side.

[seense]

While Lewis and Max basically thanked eachother for the battle with a thumbs up during the cooldown lap, people overhere are using every oppurtunity to bash a driver and point fingers. Hilarious. Be aware that it says more about yourself.

[NathanOlder]

For those hating on Max man it's so obvious. How many times has Senna been an asshole and hit other drivers? Max is an angel compared to that especially this year. He's totally driving like a work champion. He's getting everything out of the car. He's been a measures driver all this season so far.

Different era, different rules. Referencing Senna is nothing short of a joke mate.
You cant even move twice to block now. Senna was moving twice every straight in Monaco in 92. Rules change so comparisons can't really be made.

[TAG]

Yeah, he had to try something, I guess, and that really is the only place where you can have a go at it. At least they both continued. Last year’s Verstappen would have surely crashed into Hamilton and end both their races.

Did you watch the overtakes Leclerc made?

On the places where Leclerc (tried) you have to surprise the other driver or he has to leave the door open. Hamilton (and others) are to smart to leave gaps there. After the tunnel is the only place where you can try on your own merit.

That's a better statement. Clearly it's not an overtaking track but it can be done, generally though like you pointed out a skilled driver can effectively defend and you don't have to be a Lewis Hamilton to get it done. I do think Verstappen has grown quite a bit as a driver wearing the team lead mantle at Red Bull, but Vertappen's is usually a stronger Saturday driver than he is on Sundays. Today's drive more reflective of the Verstappen from previous seasons. It probably would have been more effective for him to try and force Hamilton into an error given the wasted front tires.

[Nicktec]

I feel for Bottas, he was very unlucky today. The incident cost him second place today, and 3 points in the championship.

I’m not mad at Verstappen for giving it a try at the end of the tunnel, but did he really think that was gonna work?

It’s also impressive how Ferrari keeps finding new ways to compromise Leclerc. How they managed to not get him out of Q1 was epic.

I think Bottas should be very happy with the place he finished. Sirotkin did get a 5 sec. Penalty for doing the exact same thing Bottas did. Backing up his opponents to create a gap to his teammate. FIA really were on fire today. VER had to be given a 10sec. Stop and go instead of the lousy 5 sec. He received.

[szlaszlo84]

While Lewis and Max basically thanked eachother for the battle with a thumbs up during the cooldown lap, people overhere are using every oppurtunity to bash a driver and point fingers. Hilarious. Be aware that it says more about yourself.

Lewis was thanking Max for knocking Bottas down one spot.

[Jolle]

I feel for Bottas, he was very unlucky today. The incident cost him second place today, and 3 points in the championship.

I’m not mad at Verstappen for giving it a try at the end of the tunnel, but did he really think that was gonna work?

It’s also impressive how Ferrari keeps finding new ways to compromise Leclerc. How they managed to not get him out of Q1 was epic.

I think Bottas should be very happy with the place he finished. Sirotkin did get a 5 sec. Penalty for doing the exact same thing Bottas did. Backing up his opponents to create a gap to his teammate. FIA really were on fire today. VER had to be given a 10sec. Stop and go instead of the lousy 5 sec. He received.

I think the difference with Bottas was that he did it on track and not right behind the safety car. He complied with the rules for double waved yellow.

VER was very very lucky with the 5 seconds and it wasn’t even his fault but the team’s. They should have looked better.

[Jolle]

Did you watch the overtakes Leclerc made?

On the places where Leclerc (tried) you have to surprise the other driver or he has to leave the door open. Hamilton (and others) are to smart to leave gaps there. After the tunnel is the only place where you can try on your own merit.

That's a better statement. Clearly it's not an overtaking track but it can be done, generally though like you pointed out a skilled driver can effectively defend and you don't have to be a Lewis Hamilton to get it done. I do think Verstappen has grown quite a bit as a driver wearing the team lead mantle at Red Bull, but Vertappen's is usually a stronger Saturday driver than he is on Sundays. Today's drive more reflective of the Verstappen from previous seasons. It probably would have been more effective for him to try and force Hamilton into an error given the wasted front tires.

Don’t know if it was the Verstappen from beginning of last year, the pit stop was his team’s fault. When you get a green light you just have to go, if you doubt your team, there is something wrong. As for the move on Hamilton, it was a risk that he had to take. It wasn’t for just one place, but effectively for three, from fourth, behind Hamilton to possible first if he would of cleared Hamilton for 5 seconds (with Hamilton’s tires that would have been possible)

[shingles]

Yeah, he had to try something, I guess, and that really is the only place where you can have a go at it. At least they both continued. Last year’s Verstappen would have surely crashed into Hamilton and end both their races.

Did you watch the overtakes Leclerc made?

And didn’t one of them ultimately take him out?
Every attempt at this track is probably all a gamble.

[cooken]

The worst part of Max' move on Lewis was his radio after, trying to claim Lewis turned in on him. Yeesh.

Can't believe all the Ham-hate. You folks realize they cherry pick team radio to broadcast to enhance drama and excitement? Doubtful he was moaning about tires more than anyone else who was struggling.

[JordanMugen]

While Lewis and Max basically thanked eachother for the battle with a thumbs up during the cooldown lap

Great stuff!



Great pic too.

[PlatinumZealot]

The GOAT-BOSS!

[zac510]

Thinking about it a bit, RBR had two choices; make an unsafe release, or yield to both Bottas and Vettel in the pitlane. They chose to chance it with the unsafe release; if the Merc stop had been 0.5 slower they might have gotten away with it. Being further forward in the pitlane compromises their release.
In hindsight they might have preferred to leave Max out to take track position (or 'do the opposite of Bottas') and run to a similar length strategy as Gasly. From 1st he perhaps could have been more effective pressuring Hamilton to chase and overcook his tyres, as Hamilton attempted to close the pit window.

Ah, beautiful hindsight

[iotar__]

Thinking about it a bit, RBR had two choices; make an unsafe release, or yield to both Bottas and Vettel in the pitlane. They chose to chance it with the unsafe release; if the Merc stop had been 0.5 slower they might have gotten away with it. Being further forward in the pitlane compromises their release.
In hindsight they might have preferred to leave Max out to take track position (or 'do the opposite of Bottas') and run to a similar length strategy as Gasly. From 1st he perhaps could have been more effective pressuring Hamilton to chase and overcook his tyres, as Hamilton attempted to close the pit window.

Ah, beautiful hindsight

- In a pitlane where mechanics stand. Who cares about safety, certainly not FIA. Ferrari running over a mechanic or this farce - no problem, bits falling off haas, uncompromising fight for safety.
- 5 seconds is laughable considering clear fault, danger, gain and big loss.
- Whiting or not FIA is as fraudulent as ever. Good for F1 that professional boxing exists . There are similarities though, they're not even hiding it.

[Restomaniac]

Thinking about it a bit, RBR had two choices; make an unsafe release, or yield to both Bottas and Vettel in the pitlane. They chose to chance it with the unsafe release; if the Merc stop had been 0.5 slower they might have gotten away with it. Being further forward in the pitlane compromises their release.
In hindsight they might have preferred to leave Max out to take track position (or 'do the opposite of Bottas') and run to a similar length strategy as Gasly. From 1st he perhaps could have been more effective pressuring Hamilton to chase and overcook his tyres, as Hamilton attempted to close the pit window.

Ah, beautiful hindsight

I doubt many would argue about RedBull trying it. It’s just that some during the race on here were trying to excuse RedBull whilst blaming anyone or anything in sight aka stewards, rules, pit lane (yes seriously), etc instead of looking RedBull themselves.