Results are everything in F1. Lewis' seasons of 2007, 2012 and 2018 are much much more valuable than 19 and 20. But, he became champion then so it's rose tinted glasses and all that.zibby43 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:18https://streamable.com/d43jol
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I said a few weeks ago, and a few weeks before that, that George possessed the racecraft to be just as good on Sunday as he was on Saturday.
I think people severely underestimate how bad the Williams is at race starts, and how easy it is for that car to go backward on Sundays after qualifying ahead of where it should be on Saturday.
LEC’s lap this past Saturday for P4? Russell is basically doing the equivalent every Saturday in a Williams.
Russel did a great race, but that clip is unfair to Bottas. He was on very old hards, that lost all the temperature being taken off the car.zibby43 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:18https://streamable.com/d43jol
Credit to peke_f1
I said a few weeks ago, and a few weeks before that, that George possessed the racecraft to be just as good on Sunday as he was on Saturday.
I think people severely underestimate how bad the Williams is at race starts, and how easy it is for that car to go backward on Sundays after qualifying ahead of where it should be on Saturday.
LEC’s lap this past Saturday for P4? Russell is basically doing the equivalent every Saturday in a Williams.
Hard to argue with any of that, apart from the part about liking Schumacher.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:33In my lifetime, I will not support a sportsman like I did Schumacher. He was my childhood hero. What I do today in my life, a lot of its ethos is derived from seeing him. How meticulous and detailed he was. But, in my heart I know Lewis has achieved more and through his sheer willingness to accept more competition will probably and should be regarded as the best ever.
But, during the Schumacher days, he was a villain and his team mate's uselessness was almost used against his brilliance. I saw shades of it when Webber was unable to beat Vettel. But the sheer desperation among some fans to make Bottas look like this amazing driver I have never seen. It is beyond pathetic. A guy walks in and basically owns him and people are just clinging on to Abu Dhabi hoping Bottas puts a Hamilton on him. Newsflash!! He should have been doing that at Sakhir as well and the constant excuses for failure frankly sounds unbelievably desperate.
I think personally, Hamilton deserves his dominant cars. He's just earned it. Perhaps, he even deserves a lapdog. I don't think Russell is beating Hamilton over a year but I think what really *pisses off* most fans is the continuous pretence from Mercedes, Toto and Lewis that Valtteri is a "challenger." It's an absolute joke. I know a lot of fans will be on Hamilton's case if Russell beats Bottas at Abu Dhabi and I'm not going to be one of those but by god I swear some fans really push you to question the last few championships.
Just to put it out there- What is George to do if Red Bull offer him a race seat for 2021? Mercedes have already wasted Wehrlein. I think Ocon had done more than enough to be in a Mercedes already and I think it's just unbelievable that Russell doesn't get in the seat in 2021. Sure, he could be there in 2022, but Mercedes are being extremely arrogant and George extremely juvenile if he thinks that this dominance is forever. It might change.
Agreed it does not show Bottas in a good light, but it does show Russell has no nerves when it comes to doing what is needed. Not only was he ready and able to do it, but he was not overly aggressive like he had to prove himself against BottasMikeTekRacing wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:43Russel did a great race, but that clip is unfair to Bottas. He was on very old hards, that lost all the temperature being taken off the car.zibby43 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:18https://streamable.com/d43jol
Credit to peke_f1
I said a few weeks ago, and a few weeks before that, that George possessed the racecraft to be just as good on Sunday as he was on Saturday.
I think people severely underestimate how bad the Williams is at race starts, and how easy it is for that car to go backward on Sundays after qualifying ahead of where it should be on Saturday.
LEC’s lap this past Saturday for P4? Russell is basically doing the equivalent every Saturday in a Williams.
Schuttelberg wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:33
Just to put it out there- What is George to do if Red Bull offer him a race seat for 2021? Mercedes have already wasted Wehrlein. I think Ocon had done more than enough to be in a Mercedes already and I think it's just unbelievable that Russell doesn't get in the seat in 2021. Sure, he could be there in 2022, but Mercedes are being extremely arrogant and George extremely juvenile if he thinks that this dominance is forever. It might change.
Without the flat how far up the road could Russell have got though? I feel we were deprived of a last lap fight for the lead between George and Perez.Big Tea wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:49Agreed it does not show Bottas in a good light, but it does show Russell has no nerves when it comes to doing what is needed. Not only was he ready and able to do it, but he was not overly aggressive like he had to prove himself against BottasMikeTekRacing wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:43Russel did a great race, but that clip is unfair to Bottas. He was on very old hards, that lost all the temperature being taken off the car.zibby43 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:18https://streamable.com/d43jol
Credit to peke_f1
I said a few weeks ago, and a few weeks before that, that George possessed the racecraft to be just as good on Sunday as he was on Saturday.
I think people severely underestimate how bad the Williams is at race starts, and how easy it is for that car to go backward on Sundays after qualifying ahead of where it should be on Saturday.
LEC’s lap this past Saturday for P4? Russell is basically doing the equivalent every Saturday in a Williams.
Yes, the point of that clip wasn't to crap on Bottas.Big Tea wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:49Agreed it does not show Bottas in a good light, but it does show Russell has no nerves when it comes to doing what is needed. Not only was he ready and able to do it, but he was not overly aggressive like he had to prove himself against BottasMikeTekRacing wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:43Russel did a great race, but that clip is unfair to Bottas. He was on very old hards, that lost all the temperature being taken off the car.zibby43 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:18https://streamable.com/d43jol
Credit to peke_f1
I said a few weeks ago, and a few weeks before that, that George possessed the racecraft to be just as good on Sunday as he was on Saturday.
I think people severely underestimate how bad the Williams is at race starts, and how easy it is for that car to go backward on Sundays after qualifying ahead of where it should be on Saturday.
LEC’s lap this past Saturday for P4? Russell is basically doing the equivalent every Saturday in a Williams.
Nothing, because Russell has a contract with Williams for 2021.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:33Just to put it out there- What is George to do if Red Bull offer him a race seat for 2021? Mercedes have already wasted Wehrlein. I think Ocon had done more than enough to be in a Mercedes already and I think it's just unbelievable that Russell doesn't get in the seat in 2021. Sure, he could be there in 2022, but Mercedes are being extremely arrogant and George extremely juvenile if he thinks that this dominance is forever. It might change.
I don’t think Mercedes waisted Wehrlein and Ocon. They were measured up for a few years and probably came short in development, with their long term planning that there wasn’t room for either of them anyway. Just like RedBull, you don’t struck good at every try. You get them in your program with limited data, then you see if you can develop the talent. If they don’t... it’s exit. Just look at someone like Kvyat. He was hailed as the next big thing in his first year. Development stagnated and he’s got the job more because they don’t have another talent with a SL.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 23:33In my lifetime, I will not support a sportsman like I did Schumacher. He was my childhood hero. What I do today in my life, a lot of its ethos is derived from seeing him. How meticulous and detailed he was. But, in my heart I know Lewis has achieved more and through his sheer willingness to accept more competition will probably and should be regarded as the best ever.
But, during the Schumacher days, he was a villain and his team mate's uselessness was almost used against his brilliance. I saw shades of it when Webber was unable to beat Vettel. But the sheer desperation among some fans to make Bottas look like this amazing driver I have never seen. It is beyond pathetic. A guy walks in and basically owns him and people are just clinging on to Abu Dhabi hoping Bottas puts a Hamilton on him. Newsflash!! He should have been doing that at Sakhir as well and the constant excuses for failure frankly sounds unbelievably desperate.
I think personally, Hamilton deserves his dominant cars. He's just earned it. Perhaps, he even deserves a lapdog. I don't think Russell is beating Hamilton over a year but I think what really *pisses off* most fans is the continuous pretence from Mercedes, Toto and Lewis that Valtteri is a "challenger." It's an absolute joke. I know a lot of fans will be on Hamilton's case if Russell beats Bottas at Abu Dhabi and I'm not going to be one of those but by god I swear some fans really push you to question the last few championships.
Just to put it out there- What is George to do if Red Bull offer him a race seat for 2021? Mercedes have already wasted Wehrlein. I think Ocon had done more than enough to be in a Mercedes already and I think it's just unbelievable that Russell doesn't get in the seat in 2021. Sure, he could be there in 2022, but Mercedes are being extremely arrogant and George extremely juvenile if he thinks that this dominance is forever. It might change.