Flow viz residue is the first thing that came to my mind. It could also be abrasive material as you say or, as Somers has pointed out:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... s/6799427/These alleged scuff marks may point to the main wing element not being rigid and instead flexing up and down, although they could be something totally unrelated like emulsification caused by a dirty air flow.
I imagine that .....rifrafs2kees wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:39 amDifferent subject here, W12 starts. Could the nonlinear heave spring, which allows the rear to squat as downforce increases impact traction off the line? Anecdotally, the Rbs seam to have better starts. Wondering why.
One theory that comes to mind is that rearward weight transfer associated with starts coupled with a "regressive" spring rate at the break over point might impact traction...
Just registered an account to see what you think. I may be over-exaggerating thoughOwen.C93 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:22 pmHere's an overlay gif comparing the W12 in USA when it's stopped and at speed. You can definitely see the slot gap open up.
https://i.imgur.com/seOnrMS.gif
Raw images:
https://i.imgur.com/eI6ZbDx.png
https://i.imgur.com/yViJF3P.png
And preempting the arguments about angles. That static shot should be a less favorable angle because it's from a higher position which should show the slot gap slightly more.
I can see through the gap on both images, if you look at the center you can see the twin supports in both images. The difference you are seeing could be partly down to the contrast of the image, the bottom image has a much higher contrast.Owen.C93 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:49 pmI didn't say it wasn't allowed. I'm just showing the gap when stood still and when at speed to try and figure out what RBR are referring to.
Here's 2 decently similar angles from high speed and stood still. Need to find something a bit sharper and a higher speed though.
If anything, this probably just proves that it is in fact a registration mark from when the wing was fitted in a different configuration. It lines up perfectly. If it was moving like that we would be seeing it from the front.levidrugi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:55 pmJust registered an account to see what you think. I may be over-exaggerating though
https://i.imgur.com/InNCvxe.gif
Exactly. Thats what I suspected too. It was pretty obvious to anyone who doesn't have some bias skepticism that it would be impractical to sugges the carbon could flex in such a way to follow those 'marks' without leaving obvious stress marks along the main plane wing where it bends, and I think it would likely fail a test if it did what they think it does.west52keep64 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:08 pmIf anything, this probably just proves that it is in fact a registration mark from when the wing was fitted in a different configuration. It lines up perfectly. If it was moving like that we would be seeing it from the front.levidrugi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:55 pmJust registered an account to see what you think. I may be over-exaggerating though
https://i.imgur.com/InNCvxe.gif
Bit late to this party, but yes it would be plausible. While your image is hugely exaggerated, there definitely is the possibility of elasticity.RZS10 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:56 pmWould something like this even be feasible from a carbon/material standpoint?
https://i.imgur.com/mVFwkFC.gif
Sir needs glasses.AeroDynamic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:32 pmI can't see the difference between Sochi and Qatar on the floor detail here?
Sochi
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FACTReLVEAg-sDL?format=jpg
Qatar
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg
I don't see it. The position etc all looks the asme to me. the angle of the photo is the only thing that makes the shapes of those little 'sticky-upy' bits look a little different.. perhaps if someone could draw on these to show a blind man what hes not seeing.. lolJust_a_fan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:07 amSir needs glasses.AeroDynamic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:32 pmI can't see the difference between Sochi and Qatar on the floor detail here?
Sochi
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FACTReLVEAg-sDL?format=jpg
Qatar
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg
Look at the shape of the VGs, noting that the direction of air flow is not the same in both images.