2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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Unfortunately you only have to look in here after a rough weekend to see how many it works on. And worse a lot of those quick clickbait journos are here too and rip all the sky is falling nonsense out of the team threads, it's a nice spiral

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PhillipM wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:48 pm
Unfortunately you only have to look in here after a rough weekend to see how many it works on. And worse a lot of those quick clickbait journos are here too and rip all the sky is falling nonsense out of the team threads, it's a nice spiral
What do you think, is it possible to make this chassis fast this season?

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_cerber1 wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:57 pm
PhillipM wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:48 pm
Unfortunately you only have to look in here after a rough weekend to see how many it works on. And worse a lot of those quick clickbait journos are here too and rip all the sky is falling nonsense out of the team threads, it's a nice spiral
What do you think, is it possible to make this chassis fast this season?
What is fast?
Realistically we can possibly edge the midfield slightly , and be P7/P8 consistently.

Can we beat Mercedes consistently?
No
Can we challange RB/Ferrari?
Keep dreaming.

IMO one of the biggest problems isn’t the lack of technical capability in the windtunnel, but it’s Location, you can’t simply pop into the windtunnel when you need to fly/drive to Germany to test any new part. That ads 2 days of transport to any part needing development compared to our rivals. Such a system may be fine for HAAS , but with our budget and tech. Ability it is not acceptable

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_cerber1 wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:15 pm
runningmanz wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:58 am
Lando mentioned some updates coming for Silverstone, hopefully reducing drag is at the top of the list.
Where did he say it?
" have a few things in the pipeline for Silverstone and I cannot wait to get out there, in front of our home fans."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/lando-norris/

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Some good brands on board that’s for sure.

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10326132/

No updates in the short term I’m afraid according to Seidl due to the cost cap🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:47 pm
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10326132/

No updates in the short term I’m afraid according to Seidl due to the cost cap🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
No larger silverstone upgrade? Yikes
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CjC wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:47 pm
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10326132/

No updates in the short term I’m afraid according to Seidl due to the cost cap🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
"no plans for any major updates for various reasons, including managing the cost cap as well".

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chrisgr wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:10 pm
CjC wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:47 pm
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10326132/

No updates in the short term I’m afraid according to Seidl due to the cost cap🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
"no plans for any major updates for various reasons, including managing the cost cap as well".
Yea I did read that.
So what are you telling me? Mclaren will cut a half a second a lap drag penalty with a dead cheap minor upgrade??

If we are going to be pedantic then ok yea there maybe a small update at Silverstone that may knock a tenth off the laptime. It’s nothing to get excited about
Just a fan's point of view

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chrisgr wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:10 pm
CjC wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:47 pm
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10326132/

No updates in the short term I’m afraid according to Seidl due to the cost cap🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
"no plans for any major updates for various reasons, including managing the cost cap as well".
How Merc & Redbull managing the cost-cap and gets upgrades regularly?

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NAPI10 wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:29 pm
chrisgr wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:10 pm
CjC wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:47 pm
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10326132/

No updates in the short term I’m afraid according to Seidl due to the cost cap🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
"no plans for any major updates for various reasons, including managing the cost cap as well".
How Merc & Redbull managing the cost-cap and gets upgrades regularly?
Dont ask me. Seidl's words answer your question. Its not only the cost-cap. He clearly says that they want to learn more about the car. Maybe they re not 100% sure what causes the drag.
I only wanted to say that we have to be exact when we quote another person. I thought it was obvious. Nothing more. If a person doesnt read the article thinks that the only reason for no major upgrades is the cost cap.

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NAPI10 wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:29 pm
chrisgr wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:10 pm
CjC wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:47 pm
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10326132/

No updates in the short term I’m afraid according to Seidl due to the cost cap🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
"no plans for any major updates for various reasons, including managing the cost cap as well".
How Merc & Redbull managing the cost-cap and gets upgrades regularly?
If they produce an upgrade it comes out of the cost cap if it works or not. Possibly not sure so do not want to commit to spend on it until they are
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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chrisgr wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:35 pm
NAPI10 wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:29 pm
chrisgr wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:10 pm


"no plans for any major updates for various reasons, including managing the cost cap as well".
How Merc & Redbull managing the cost-cap and gets upgrades regularly?
Dont ask me. Seidl's words answer your question. Its not only the cost-cap. He clearly says that they want to learn more about the car. Maybe they re not 100% sure what causes the drag.
I only wanted to say that we have to be exact when we quote another person. I thought it was obvious. Nothing more. If a person doesnt read the article thinks that the only reason for no major upgrades is the cost cap.
Apologies
Just a fan's point of view

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NAPI10 wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:29 pm
chrisgr wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:10 pm
CjC wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:47 pm
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10326132/

No updates in the short term I’m afraid according to Seidl due to the cost cap🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
"no plans for any major updates for various reasons, including managing the cost cap as well".
How Merc & Redbull managing the cost-cap and gets upgrades regularly?
I think questions are already being asked about how RBR are managing their development rate. I personally feel they have gone for a strategy of developing this year's car a lot early in the season and building a championship lead - working so far - and then slow development in the latter half to focus on next year. Obviously any developments that would work on this year's car would get brought forward if they need them.
Favourite driver: Lando Norris
Favourite team: McLaren

Turned down the chance to meet Vettel at Silverstone in 2007. He was a test driver at the time and I didn't think it was worth queuing!! 🤦🏻‍♂️