Ferrari's Carlos Sainz won the British Grand Prix from pole position, but it was far from easy. An early heavy crash and a late safety car resulted in a tense race that saw Perez take his opportunity for second as Hamilton pleased the home crowd with a third-place result.
What would you expect to improve if that´s the case?Schuttelberg wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 20:53Anyone else here desperate to see Charles in any other team?
Ferrari did explain that, they thought new soft tires would not last the remaining laps so he could not regain the leadership. That´s assuming if they both pitted their rivals wouldn´t. That´s the problem of leading a race when a SC is deployed, your rivals can react and take opposite strategy to take the lead
Team.performance wise you mean.Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 08:01What would you expect to improve if that´s the case?Schuttelberg wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 20:53Anyone else here desperate to see Charles in any other team?
Right now it would only be a step forward (car perfomance wise) if it´s RBR, any other team will be a huge step backwards. And politically speaking a move to RBR would be a step backward, maybe Ferrari do not provide him clear #1 status (yet), but at RBR he would be a clear #2, at least while Max is still there
Yes, not only car performance but team performance. But anycase it would still be a step backwards pollitically, as RBR has a #1 and Lecrerc would be #2Aesop wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 08:36Team.performance wise you mean.Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 08:01What would you expect to improve if that´s the case?Schuttelberg wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 20:53Anyone else here desperate to see Charles in any other team?
Right now it would only be a step forward (car perfomance wise) if it´s RBR, any other team will be a huge step backwards. And politically speaking a move to RBR would be a step backward, maybe Ferrari do not provide him clear #1 status (yet), but at RBR he would be a clear #2, at least while Max is still there
There are only a few points between them so tricky to say to Sainz " you will let Charles win'. What if Saniz wins in Austria on merit? That becomes even trickier for the team doesn't it?
Which means that the data they got from FPs where wrong!Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 08:05Ferrari did explain that, they thought new soft tires would not last the remaining laps so he could not regain the leadership. That´s assuming if they both pitted their rivals wouldn´t. That´s the problem of leading a race when a SC is deployed, your rivals can react and take opposite strategy to take the lead
The question was what would have happened if LEC pited one lap after SAI and HAM.Juzh wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 09:42If those two hadn't pitted they would jus be sitting ducks vs leclerc on new soft. In the end only thing that would happen is maybe hamilton jumps carlos trough pitstops due to ferrari double stack, but that's it. Still it would be ferrari 1-3 with the "right" driver winning it.
Prior to SC hamilton was never gonna pass leclerc. Hard tyre had a lot of durability and they were very evenly matched on pace. First he had to go trough sainz and that would cost more laptime against leclerc who was already more than 6s up the road. Then he has to catch and pass him on track - not happening.
Fastest / joint fastest car on the grid, benefitted from the SC otherwise would have finished a very distant 4th behind the third fastest car on the grid. Zhou getting a sympathy vote, presumably, but did also get through in to Q3 as did Latifi. Mick got a good rating presumably because he started from almost the back and was fighting with Max in the points at the end - a better relative result than Perez's, really, all be it helped by the loss of three cars at the beginning.chrisc90 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 19:57Mind boggles! 7.4 for driving about 50metres and crashing out?
Perez driving from the back of the grid to finish 2nd only deserves a 7.6?
Equal with P4, P6 and P10 but different points?
Alonso ahead of Max with the same score but P4 and P6?
Someone must have been smoking the magic dragon when they come up with that.
Yeah I asked above and got no answer but was able to figure it out after looking at the lap times under sc. If he pitted the lap after he likely would have lost out to both of them. The main reason is that on the lap that the sc was deployed, they were driving at full speed during part of the lap, so therefore that inlap is always going to be faster than an inlap driven completely under a full sc. This is also why Norris lost a position to Alonso.michl420 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 17:50The question was what would have happened if LEC pited one lap after SAI and HAM.Juzh wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 09:42If those two hadn't pitted they would jus be sitting ducks vs leclerc on new soft. In the end only thing that would happen is maybe hamilton jumps carlos trough pitstops due to ferrari double stack, but that's it. Still it would be ferrari 1-3 with the "right" driver winning it.
Prior to SC hamilton was never gonna pass leclerc. Hard tyre had a lot of durability and they were very evenly matched on pace. First he had to go trough sainz and that would cost more laptime against leclerc who was already more than 6s up the road. Then he has to catch and pass him on track - not happening.
He was already trapped behind the SC, so he would have lost allot of time before the SC would be at pit entry. Dropped him back at the grid.michl420 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 17:50The question was what would have happened if LEC pited one lap after SAI and HAM.Juzh wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 09:42If those two hadn't pitted they would jus be sitting ducks vs leclerc on new soft. In the end only thing that would happen is maybe hamilton jumps carlos trough pitstops due to ferrari double stack, but that's it. Still it would be ferrari 1-3 with the "right" driver winning it.
Prior to SC hamilton was never gonna pass leclerc. Hard tyre had a lot of durability and they were very evenly matched on pace. First he had to go trough sainz and that would cost more laptime against leclerc who was already more than 6s up the road. Then he has to catch and pass him on track - not happening.
