2022 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Sep 02 - 04

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2022 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Sep 02 - 04

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A great track with narrows providing a good sense of speed. Hugenholtz corner, the banked turn 3, is named after John/Hans Hugenholtz, who "...designed the circuits Suzuka in Japan, Zolder in Belgium, the Hockenheimring's Motodrom stadium section in Germany, Jarama in Spain, and Nivelles in Belgium."

"Hugenholtz's father, of the same name, was a Protestant minister and peace activist who moved his family to Purmerend in 1918 and Ammerstol in 1924. Hugenholtz studied to be a lawyer and became a journalist by profession, but his interests were in cars. As a young man he was an amateur motorcycle racer. He founded the Nederlandse Auto Race Club in 1936 and was director of the Zandvoort racing circuit from 1949 to 1974."

He also was involved in a couple of automotive concepts including an aero car known as the Delfino from 1989.

Is there currently a more banked turn on the calender?

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If Max won by 20 seconds last year, he will win by 2 minutes this year. How riveting

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Sofa King wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:54 pm
If Max won by 20 seconds last year, he will win by 2 minutes this year. How riveting
Last year Hamilton pitted for fastest lap hence the 20s gap. It was actually a very closely fought race (and would've been exciting, had overtaking been possible)

Doubt the gap will be anywhere near as large as it was at spa

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Here is what's likely going to happen:

With the tracks bankings, it certainly looks like Ferrari & Merc ( + the others) will have to raise their cars just like in Spa. Ferrari might stand a chance of pole, but come race day, Verstappen will cruise ahead easily. Ferrari will chew its tyres away, and Merc with smooth tyre consummation will threaten the Ferrari for 3rd place.
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Apparently, they are going to extend the DRS zone so that it includes the banking. Will be interesting to see by which session they change it back on safety concerns

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BlueCheetah66 wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:24 am
Apparently, they are going to extend the DRS zone so that it includes the banking. Will be interesting to see by which session they change it back on safety concerns
How does that work when the DRS closes when you touch the brakes?

I presume drivers can delay opening the DRS rather than opening it instantly at the line?
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chrisc90 wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:27 am
BlueCheetah66 wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:24 am
Apparently, they are going to extend the DRS zone so that it includes the banking. Will be interesting to see by which session they change it back on safety concerns
How does that work when the DRS closes when you touch the brakes?

I presume drivers can delay opening the DRS rather than opening it instantly at the line?
I believe they should be able to go through the banking flat unless I'm mistaken.

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BlueCheetah66 wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:34 am
chrisc90 wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:27 am
BlueCheetah66 wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:24 am
Apparently, they are going to extend the DRS zone so that it includes the banking. Will be interesting to see by which session they change it back on safety concerns
How does that work when the DRS closes when you touch the brakes?

I presume drivers can delay opening the DRS rather than opening it instantly at the line?
I believe they should be able to go through the banking flat unless I'm mistaken.
Yes they were flat out through there last year easily

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organic wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:01 pm
BlueCheetah66 wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:34 am
chrisc90 wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:27 am


How does that work when the DRS closes when you touch the brakes?

I presume drivers can delay opening the DRS rather than opening it instantly at the line?
I believe they should be able to go through the banking flat unless I'm mistaken.
Yes they were flat out through there last year easily
But that was without DRS ..
Well, we'll see I guess
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Gotta say the track didn't look that abrasive for C1, C2, C3... the bankings really up the stress to make Pirelli want to be on the safe side.
Not real life but from sims i'm quite sure the will be able to drive the banking with DRS open.

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vorticism wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:46 pm
A great track with narrows providing a good sense of speed. Hugenholtz corner, the banked turn 3, is named after John/Hans Hugenholtz, who "...designed the circuits Suzuka in Japan, Zolder in Belgium, the Hockenheimring's Motodrom stadium section in Germany, Jarama in Spain, and Nivelles in Belgium."

"Hugenholtz's father, of the same name, was a Protestant minister and peace activist who moved his family to Purmerend in 1918 and Ammerstol in 1924. Hugenholtz studied to be a lawyer and became a journalist by profession, but his interests were in cars. As a young man he was an amateur motorcycle racer. He founded the Nederlandse Auto Race Club in 1936 and was director of the Zandvoort racing circuit from 1949 to 1974."

He also was involved in a couple of automotive concepts including an aero car known as the Delfino from 1989.

Is there currently a more banked turn on the calender?

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Hungenholz was also a hobby winemaker, and even had wine named 'Hugenholz bocht', which is a Dutch joke like a drink which is very untasty, but also the dutch word for corner.

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TNTHead wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:00 pm
Hungenholz was also a hobby winemaker, and even had wine named 'Hugenholz bocht', which is a Dutch joke like a drink which is very untasty, but also the dutch word for corner.
Ha.

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I didn’t think Hugenholz had much input into the Zandvoort layout, it was mostly public roads. Suzuka was his own work though.