2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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13 Feb 2023, 03:09
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13 Feb 2023, 03:08
What of the 2022 budget cap?
When will we hear if their interpretation was similar to 2021?
With the car ready and all, it's possible they had a lot of resources over the cap.
Probably midway through the 2022 season. Considering it was the first year and they said it'd take a bit longer the first time, and from what horner has said Re when to expect to hear in the AMuS interview , I would expect it towards the summer june-aug time

RB were 'only' 400k over the cap in 2021 and that's despite a few million in crash damage. In 2022 RB had the least crash damage of any team across the season (the only major-ish crash was Perez at Monaco) thanks to mostly running in clean air all season which probably means they could easily leave a bit of margin in the cap for 2022 with that money

Spending more doesn't mean the car is ready any sooner. Fewer component iterations, less wind tunnel time & fewer wind tunnel runs because of the penalty means it's possible for the car to be ready earlier into the off-season from actually spending less
To my understanding it was millions over.. like 2.4 million, but it came down to 400k after tax/other accounting returns. So...operationally it's a bigger gap than it seems.
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Max Verstappen new global Heineken 0.0 ambassador

Published on 20 February 2023 on Verstappen.com

With under two weeks to go until the launch of the 2023 season in Bahrain, Formula 1 global partner Heineken have announced a new worldwide partnership with Dutch, global F1 superstar Max Verstappen, ahead of what promises to be yet another exceptional racing season. The partnership, bringing together the number one Dutch beer alongside the number one Dutch driver, will aim to engage the next generation of fans through a series of creative and meaningful activities, focusing on responsible consumption.

First up will be Player 0.0 - an exciting new gaming initiative that Heineken and Verstappen are working on together, to create a new virtual racing experience for fans culminating in winning gamers getting to race against some of the world’s best drivers. The current world champion, Verstappen has also been announced as Heineken's official 0.0 ambassador to help encourage responsible consumption, through a series of sponsorship activations including the ongoing ‘When You Drive, Never Drink’ campaign.

Max Verstappen, current F1 world champion, said: “Being from The Netherlands myself, it is something truly special to partner up with an iconic Dutch Brand like Heineken. People who know me, know that I am very determined and as a driver I do not want to leave any room for error. That’s why I am excited to become a part of the ‘When You Drive, Never Drink’ campaign to help raise awareness for responsible consumption. And being an avid gamer and passionate Sim Racer myself, I’m thrilled to be playing a part in the new gaming initiative being developed called Player 0.0.”

Heineken also officially announces a partnership with Oracle Red Bull Racing and Heineken 0.0 - the perfect pairing to deliver world class entertainment and exceptional fan experiences where performance meets play. The two global brands will also deliver exciting new lifestyle campaign moments in areas including music & gaming, and will also support Heineken’s responsible consumption campaign, ‘When You Drive, Never Drink’. The partnership will aim to engage and connect with fans globally through the number 1 driver and race team in F1, helping give fans a view behind the curtain of a world class racing team.

Christian Horner, team principal Oracle Red Bull Racing, said: “Any great team needs a series of great partners to help support them on their journey, and we’re incredibly excited to add Heineken as one of our global partners with their no alcohol brand Heineken 0.0 to help take us to the next level. Heineken 0.0 has become a huge part of the F1 family across the globe, providing exciting and engaging entertainment opportunities for our global fanbase, both at track and at home. We can’t wait to work with them once again and see the exciting opportunities we can bring to our fans this season.”

These new partnerships complement Heineken’s existing association with Formula 1, which has proven highly successful in growing the Dutch brand’s global footprint as well as drinking occasions in targeted local markets.

Bram Westenbrink, global head Heineken brand, said: “We are incredibly excited to partner with not only the current world champion, but also the team behind him in Oracle Red Bull Racing. Max is a Dutch and global icon. He is the perfect ambassador for Heineken 0.0; his passion both on and off the track - in the Sim Racing community, will expand our message into the world of gaming with Player 0.0 and help in our push to encourage responsible consumption.”

Since entering the world of motorsport in 2016, Heineken has been committed to real change around attitudes towards drink driving and re-launched their ‘When You Drive, Never Drink’ campaign back in May 2022. Heineken has always advocated responsible consumption, with global motorsport partnerships now providing an effective platform to destigmatize responsible drinking. On top of this, Heineken has committed to investing 10%+ of all media budgets to supporting these programmes.
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10434227/

Really worth a read. Here's an excerpt
"We have also matured ourselves in the electrification technologies, where we had a clear advantage last year, especially the MGU-K deployment. In addition, we have continued to work with our suppliers to improve the precision of parts in terms of manufacturing, quality inspection, governance, as well as the precision power unit assembly.

"HRC Sakura has been making an all-out effort for this coming season. So, we believe we are fully prepared for the pre-season tests starting this week."



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20 Feb 2023, 16:47
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10434227/

Really worth a read. Here's an excerpt
"We have also matured ourselves in the electrification technologies, where we had a clear advantage last year, especially the MGU-K deployment. In addition, we have continued to work with our suppliers to improve the precision of parts in terms of manufacturing, quality inspection, governance, as well as the precision power unit assembly.

"HRC Sakura has been making an all-out effort for this coming season. So, we believe we are fully prepared for the pre-season tests starting this week."


Great to hear. Interested to see how Honda engine vs. Ferrari engine will perform like in 2023

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kediown wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 17:41
organic wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 16:47
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10434227/

Really worth a read. Here's an excerpt
"We have also matured ourselves in the electrification technologies, where we had a clear advantage last year, especially the MGU-K deployment. In addition, we have continued to work with our suppliers to improve the precision of parts in terms of manufacturing, quality inspection, governance, as well as the precision power unit assembly.

"HRC Sakura has been making an all-out effort for this coming season. So, we believe we are fully prepared for the pre-season tests starting this week."


Great to hear. Interested to see how Honda engine vs. Ferrari engine will perform like in 2023
Probably fairly even. Honda better deployment, Ferrari bit more power if early '22 trend prevails which seems likely

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organic wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 17:41
kediown wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 17:41
organic wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 16:47
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10434227/

Really worth a read. Here's an excerpt

Great to hear. Interested to see how Honda engine vs. Ferrari engine will perform like in 2023
Probably fairly even. Honda better deployment, Ferrari bit more power if early '22 trend prevails which seems likely
Also likely the reliability for Honda engine will be better, there seems to be some concerns about Ferrari's turbocharger

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organic wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 17:41
kediown wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 17:41
organic wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 16:47
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10434227/

Really worth a read. Here's an excerpt

Great to hear. Interested to see how Honda engine vs. Ferrari engine will perform like in 2023
Probably fairly even. Honda better deployment, Ferrari bit more power if early '22 trend prevails which seems likely
Honda with a bit more reliability if rumors are to be believed.

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organic wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 17:41
kediown wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 17:41
organic wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 16:47
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10434227/

Really worth a read. Here's an excerpt

"We have also matured ourselves in the electrification technologies, where we had a clear advantage last year, especially the MGU-K deployment. In addition, we have continued to work with our suppliers to improve the precision of parts in terms of manufacturing, quality inspection, governance, as well as the precision power unit assembly.

"HRC Sakura has been making an all-out effort for this coming season. So, we believe we are fully prepared for the pre-season tests starting this week."
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Great to hear. Interested to see how Honda engine vs. Ferrari engine will perform like in 2023
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Probably fairly even. Honda better deployment, Ferrari bit more power if early '22 trend prevails which seems likely
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Trying to optimize the ERS is the main focus at this point for next season.
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organic wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 17:41
kediown wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 17:41
organic wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 16:47
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10434227/

Really worth a read. Here's an excerpt

Great to hear. Interested to see how Honda engine vs. Ferrari engine will perform like in 2023
Probably fairly even. Honda better deployment, Ferrari bit more power if early '22 trend prevails which seems likely
I was also of the opinion ferrari had more ICE power in early 2022, but RB18s humongous weight probably made it look worse than it was. As such i'm not that worried by roumors about supposed big ferrari power gains.

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organic wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 16:47
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10434227/

Really worth a read. Here's an excerpt
"We have also matured ourselves in the electrification technologies, where we had a clear advantage last year, especially the MGU-K deployment. In addition, we have continued to work with our suppliers to improve the precision of parts in terms of manufacturing, quality inspection, governance, as well as the precision power unit assembly.

"HRC Sakura has been making an all-out effort for this coming season. So, we believe we are fully prepared for the pre-season tests starting this week."
"Not only must we improve the areas where problems have become apparent, but also we have been preparing ourselves to have wider strategies by identifying the limits of each part and maximizing its potential".

I know they do the whole, "it's only for reliability" thing. But realistically reliability and performance cannot be separated here. They will likely tune the engine slightly more aggressively, as illustrated by the statement about "wider strategies".

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I guess so. But they need to be political and not invoke the wrath of the fia when discussing these things

Every reliability upgrade is a power upgrade to some extent

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Does anyone else realize that this news from Honda suggest that they also had to turn their power unit down last year?

There is potentially still a big upside for the Honda PU this season with the durability and ERS improvements. Honda have never been the type to boast about their improvements but I wonder if the Honda will be unleashed this season to the surprise of quite a few unsuspecting rival manufacturers (and fans :wink: )...

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Last year there were rumours that Spa engine was damaged after the race and that's why they took another one in Monza. Rumours are rumours of course, but if it was to be believed, Ferrari's gains definitely doesn't concern me at all.

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I guess we need Wazari to show up and let us know some of the inner going-ons.