2023 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 15 -17

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2023 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 15 -17

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Re: 2023 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 15 -17

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The bookies don't seem to have much faith in the King of the Streets to win this Grand Prix.

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Hope McLaren's upgrades help with their slow speed corner issues... [-o< [-o<

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Verstappen and Leclerc think the new layout is better for overtaking:
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/236439/v ... aking.html

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Unless they put another DRS zone there it wont make a difference.

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Juzh wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:26 pm
Unless they put another DRS zone there it wont make a difference.
I feel like the very twisty S3 that only offers one fast line through the corners did concertina out the cars..

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Juzh wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:26 pm
Unless they put another DRS zone there it wont make a difference.
The difference between cars will be smaller.

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If it was already hard to overtake between 5-7 this new section will make absolutely no difference especially with no DRS. I feel like the 3rd zone could've been moved here. It will add opportunity for cars with big pace deltas to overtake when out of position.

Only positives I could possibly see is battles lasting longer since removing the corners here makes the track easier on the rear tyres. So teams who generally struggle with tyre management can be a bit better off on this layout.

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Main straight drs is useless, they should have had the third drs right after the second one on the new section.


I also never understood the 7, 8 and 9 section, any reason why they do not go little further from 7 to around the park?

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new layout is just like baku without sector 3,a totally stop & go circuit,setting up in monaco may not comfort this layout
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FW17 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:56 am
Main straight drs is useless, they should have had the third drs right after the second one on the new section.


I also never understood the 7, 8 and 9 section, any reason why they do not go little further from 7 to around the park?
Too small...the section behind turn 7 looks small, but actually this is a broad 2 lane road. When you walk on the track it seems huge, on the other hand the section behind the park is very small, would need a lot of rework. They also need the space for the safety zone after turn 7 which extends far and is a safety exit and need to limit the speed into turn 10 where there is no space.
Furthermore there is a mall behind the park, so if they would extend they would not have space behind the memorial for a grandstand.
I have been on this grandstand in the year Vettel had his last win....I think this was 2019. I think the area and track is just great in this location as you can go very close to the track. Between turn 8 and 9 you can take pictures directly at the fence, the cars are 5m away from you.

I think the change is great for this year. I never understood the marina section and I think it broke the flow on the circuit. It was always just a reason for safety cars....I do not remember a nice move there into the grandstand.
But...although I do not like the float...I wonder how they deal with loosing so much grandstand...tickets should be strongly limited.
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Singapore F1 track changes set to help brakes and tyres

Formula 1 teams agree that while the fundamental high downforce character of Singapore's Marina Bay track will be unchanged, the revisions to the layout for 2023 will have some impact.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sing ... /10518644/
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The new layout means that a new absolute lap record will likely be set - KMag currently holds the lap record with a 1.41 .905. Last year's FL was 1.46.458 by Russell which no doubt would have been beaten if the track layout had remained as it was.

Expect whoever gets the new lap record to be treated as the Second Coming as certain commentators (looking at you, Crofty) forget that the track is much quicker in the new layout. #-o :lol:
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basti313 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:29 am
FW17 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:56 am
Main straight drs is useless, they should have had the third drs right after the second one on the new section.


I also never understood the 7, 8 and 9 section, any reason why they do not go little further from 7 to around the park?
Too small...the section behind turn 7 looks small, but actually this is a broad 2 lane road. When you walk on the track it seems huge, on the other hand the section behind the park is very small, would need a lot of rework. They also need the space for the safety zone after turn 7 which extends far and is a safety exit and need to limit the speed into turn 10 where there is no space.
Furthermore there is a mall behind the park, so if they would extend they would not have space behind the memorial for a grandstand.
I have been on this grandstand in the year Vettel had his last win....I think this was 2019. I think the area and track is just great in this location as you can go very close to the track. Between turn 8 and 9 you can take pictures directly at the fence, the cars are 5m away from you.

I think the change is great for this year. I never understood the marina section and I think it broke the flow on the circuit. It was always just a reason for safety cars....I do not remember a nice move there into the grandstand.
But...although I do not like the float...I wonder how they deal with loosing so much grandstand...tickets should be strongly limited.
Road if front of the mall is a 4 lane carriagway, which is 15m wide.
Around the memorial park would give much better viewing of turn 7 from the park grand stand.

The fast right left that would be at where turn 9 is located could be made slower to accommodate the lack of runoff at 10.

Anyway chicane are no improvements to 90 degree corners, only improvement would be for the longest straight (not very long) to be longer by 150m, making overtaking more promising.