2024 Williams Racing F1 Team

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Team: πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Williams Racing
Base: πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Grove, Wantage, Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
Website: https://www.williamsf1.com

WCC: πŸ† 1980 | 1981 | 1986 | 1987 | 1992 | 1993 | 1994 | 1996 | 1997

Team principal: James Vowles
Technical director: Pat Fry

Race drivers:
πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Logan Sargeant 2
πŸ‡ΉπŸ‡­ Alexander Albon 23

Chassis: TBA
Engine: Mercedes V6 Turbo

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Eye-opening and all-around thoroughly interesting interview of Vowels with AMuS

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How do you plan to utilize the increased capital investment [which was recently upped by $20m]?

Vowles: Of the $65 million, $45 had already been spent. So now we have 20 million more in hand. Ideally we would have needed 142 million to do what would put us at the level of the top teams. So we had to set priorities. This means eradicating our greatest weaknesses.

For example production. Every part that we don't produce in-house costs us three to four times as much and wastes time. That's why we're increasing the capacity in-house. We are investing in a new simulator and simulations. And software that records the entire parts turnover.
When is what available to you?

Vowles: The Simulator 2025. Digital parts capture mid to late 2024. Production facilities between 12 and 36 months.

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Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:58 pm
For example production. Every part that we don't produce in-house costs us three to four times as much and wastes time. That's why we're increasing the capacity in-house. We are investing in a new simulator and simulations. And software that records the entire parts turnover.
And people wonder why Haas suck despite nearly "spending at the cap". He who holds capital can spend less to get more. Vowles and his backers have the right idea, Gene Haas is out to lunch.

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When is Mike Elliot joining Williams?

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When is this happening March or April??

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Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:08 am
When is Mike Elliot joining Williams?
I reckon he'll join for 2026 onwards

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Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:55 am
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When is Mike Elliot joining Williams?
I reckon he'll join for 2026 onwards
Would prefer that he is not hired by Williams. Took a team dominating 8 years with all the capabilities and failed to deliver back to back. Williams already have Pat fry and young engineers who can step up.

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McMika98 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:31 am
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Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:55 am
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Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:08 am
When is Mike Elliot joining Williams?
I reckon he'll join for 2026 onwards
Would prefer that he is not hired by Williams. Took a team dominating 8 years with all the capabilities and failed to deliver back to back. Williams already have Pat fry and young engineers who can step up.
Agreed, I'm pretty sure I remember hearing JV talk about having Pat Fry in place with all his experience and then looking for an up and coming engineer (not an established name yet) to work under him.
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I reckon he'll join for 2026 onwards
Would prefer that he is not hired by Williams. Took a team dominating 8 years with all the capabilities and failed to deliver back to back. Williams already have Pat fry and young engineers who can step up.
Agreed, I'm pretty sure I remember hearing JV talk about having Pat Fry in place with all his experience and then looking for an up and coming engineer (not an established name yet) to work under him.
Mike Elliot up and coming engineer?

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It would be interesting to see what JV decides to do. He would know Mike Elliott's potential and abilities having been on the same team for many years at Merc.

It would be quite telling if JV didn't go with Elliott...

I think though that Pat Fry would have a significant say in this decision too. So who knows at this stage....
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McMika98 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:31 am
organic wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:55 am
FW17 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:08 am
When is Mike Elliot joining Williams?
I reckon he'll join for 2026 onwards
Would prefer that he is not hired by Williams. Took a team dominating 8 years with all the capabilities and failed to deliver back to back. Williams already have Pat fry and young engineers who can step up.
Performance can be a matter of environment. James Allison did not produce anything special when he was at Ferrari. Adrian Newey is known to be very particular about his working environment and his madness is nurtured by RB. It wouldn't work at some other teams.

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Also Mike Elliott was in very senior roles for Merc for long before he took the TD role. And I would also agree with what others have stated - that environment and circumstances can play a large role. He was head of aero from 2013-2017 and technology director from '17-21 and the cars weren't too bad in that period

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It would be interesting to see how Logan Sargeant is going to perform in 2024 after his really disappointing 2023 where he could only score 1 point where his teammate Albon score 27 points.
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Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:08 pm
It would be interesting to see how Logan Sargeant is going to perform in 2024 after his really disappointing 2023 where he could only score 1 point where his teammate Albon score 27 points.
He will do far better if the car is competitive. I don't think he was as bad as many people think, Albon made most of races where Williams were good. On other races, Logan was close to him especially in races.

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Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:50 pm
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Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:08 pm
It would be interesting to see how Logan Sargeant is going to perform in 2024 after his really disappointing 2023 where he could only score 1 point where his teammate Albon score 27 points.
He will do far better if the car is competitive. I don't think he was as bad as many people think, Albon made most of races where Williams were good. On other races, Logan was close to him especially in races.
IMO the main problem is that last season he caused a huge amount of crash damage. Williams have deficits in terms of their ability to produce parts & their production costs so it's something that they can't afford to deal with again