2025 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, June 13 - 15

[MtthsMlw]

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C4 - C5 - C6

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[_cerber1]

Rear limited track?

[SiLo]

Rear limited track?

Yeah, no high speed corners really and many traction zones. Balanced somewhat by heavy braking zones, but ultimately rear limited.

[De Wet]

McLaren 1/2 -

[venkyhere]

10-11 being the only 'interesting' corners in an otherwise McLaren snoozefest of a track.

[Farnborough]

I'm expecting Ferrari to be reasonably more competitive for pace here. It would seem to suit where the car is right now.

[DJ Downforce]

I'm expecting Ferrari to be reasonably more competitive for pace here. It would seem to suit where the car is right now.

If it rains particularly in quali then it'll be game over for them however.

[Farnborough]

I'm expecting Ferrari to be reasonably more competitive for pace here. It would seem to suit where the car is right now.

If it rains particularly in quali then it'll be game over for them however.

It'll be interesting to see the outcome anyway. I'm basing my view on them accepting the overall softness of setup they appear to need in containing their suspension problem at rear, this being successful in Monaco for similar track attributes, which would also play out well if wet too. Ordinarily a softer setup can help with wet surface running too.

It's obviously a projection on my part, but based on technical aspect in limitations they acknowledge currently, that being quite a difference from a fan sentiment point of view.

Perhaps a little more insight after Friday running, then we'll see how it stacks up.

[DJ Downforce]

I'm expecting Ferrari to be reasonably more competitive for pace here. It would seem to suit where the car is right now.

If it rains particularly in quali then it'll be game over for them however.

It'll be interesting to see the outcome anyway. I'm basing my view on them accepting the overall softness of setup they appear to need in containing their suspension problem at rear, this being successful in Monaco for similar track attributes, which would also play out well if wet too. Ordinarily a softer setup can help with wet surface running too.

It's obviously a projection on my part, but based on technical aspect in limitations they acknowledge currently, that being quite a difference from a fan sentiment point of view.

Perhaps a little more insight after Friday running, then we'll see how it stacks up.

But can they run that soft? The long straights will lower the car and cause the plank to wear, the whole cause of this nightmare.

[Farnborough]

If it rains particularly in quali then it'll be game over for them however.

It'll be interesting to see the outcome anyway. I'm basing my view on them accepting the overall softness of setup they appear to need in containing their suspension problem at rear, this being successful in Monaco for similar track attributes, which would also play out well if wet too. Ordinarily a softer setup can help with wet surface running too.

It's obviously a projection on my part, but based on technical aspect in limitations they acknowledge currently, that being quite a difference from a fan sentiment point of view.

Perhaps a little more insight after Friday running, then we'll see how it stacks up.

But can they run that soft? The long straights will lower the car and cause the plank to wear, the whole cause of this nightmare.

I see more of a blend as they're not chasing absolute and high corner speed lateral load derived grip for this circuit. They'll be less punished for slightly raised but softer rear in ultimate terms it looks to me.

Seeming to find a reasonable compromise at Barcelona, which may have given them more confidence to chase a good optimised overall target here.

At the moment it's just as much acceptance of recognised limitations (their stated rear suspension shortcomings) to then not chase a setup as if they had a perfect car with no compromise. It'll generate different answers for them given that foresight and approach. Maybe not winning, but really driving the compromise that delivers.

[venkyhere]

Softer (relatively speaking) setup will help with traction ; and this circuit is full of slow/medium speed traction events. So it would be unwise to count Ferrari out. especially LeClerc who has adapted well to the 'need to raise the car' limitation and found a workaround with his driver-specific-setup and driving style.

This is where we should become aware of the genius suspension design of the McLaren. It's soft enough at low aero-loads to aid slow/medium speed traction, yet becomes hard for high speed long radius corners or high speed 'snakes' - the precise kind of tunable non-linearity of their spring+damper combo, in conjuction with the different tyre pressures/compounds, in such a way that they can run their static ride height "lower than others" , which in turn multiplies their aero advantage.
There is so much talk of 'cooling' (engine/charge-air/brakes) and aero (flexi wings, floor) about the McLaren, and very less about the mechanical aspects. IMHO, the McLaren has so many trump cards in it's pocket - mechanical, cooling, aero, traction, braking, reliability. It's as close to a perfect car as possible in this regulation set.

[evered7]

Last year it was expected that Canada would be better for Ferrari based on their Monaco form. It went as bad as it could.

This year they are good again, by luck or whatever, in Monaco. Hope the prediction will stay true this time.

[SB15]

It would be very unwise to count out both Mercedes and Redbull

[ringo]

Ferrari will be limited because of plank wear. This track needs a good compromise for high speed and low drag and low speed performance.
McLaren and VCARB will be strongest here. If Redbull truly solved their slow speed issues, then it will be just as good as McLaren for lap time. McLaren are just not fast on the straights. Exiting the hairpin will get them a little head start, but I don't expect them to be barreling down the straight like the RB21 and Ferrari.

[Vettel165]

Mclaren drivers to retire from the race, Max wins in a dominant fashion from Leclerc and Russel and the battle for WDC is again wide open.... Nah I dont think so...

In reality Mclaren will dominate the race with their superior car and tyre-management, others might fight for that P3. The hope for this season was for me lost for the first time in Miami and then for the second time in Barcelona. We will see a new champion, I hope it is Piastri of course. For Red Bull to catch up and Max winning some consecutive races in the row would be for me the biggest miracle of the last at least 15 years in f1.