2025 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, June 27 - 29

[MtthsMlw]

Tyre selection
C3 - C4 - C5

2024 Results
Qualifying


Race




2024 Pole Lap
2024 Race Highlights
Schedule and more information

[CjC]

Not that I’m a massive fan of the format but did the FIA give an explanation as to why this weekend isn’t a sprint weekend?

[venkyhere]

I hope all have learnt their lessons and people don't attempt an overtake into T1. The only overtaking spots are T3 and T4.

[Wouter]

Not that I’m a massive fan of the format but did the FIA give an explanation as to why this weekend isn’t a sprint weekend?

Please NO Sprintrace weekend!!

BTW, Max has a new helmet.

[deadhead]

Gravel traps are still present at 9-10

[HungarianRacer]

I think it's worth noting that this will be the first track since the flexi front wing TD that'll properly test how the aero balancing prowess of teams have been effected by the stiffer flaps, Canada was all low speeds, one can get away with mostly optimising for the high speed stuff in Barcelona, while the Red Bull Ring has both high-margin low and high speed turns (kinda funny considering it only has 7 real corners).

[r85]

Red Bull looks pretty confident with their low downforce rear wing

[venkyhere]

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Red Bull looks pretty confident with their low downforce rear wing

I wonder what it will do to their tyre deg from sector2 and sector3 on a super hot track. Maybe they can 'deal with it' with more cranked up beam wing(s).
I wouldn't be surprised if by the time it's Q, this changes from low DF to a low-mid or even mid DF wing.

[r85]

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Red Bull looks pretty confident with their low downforce rear wing

I wonder what it will do to their tyre deg from sector2 and sector3 on a super hot track. Maybe they can 'deal with it' with more cranked up beam wing(s).
I wouldn't be surprised if by the time it's Q, this changes from low DF to a low-mid or even mid DF wing.

It's not like they'll gain much in S1 because there are 3 DRS zones that basically nullify the rear wing choice. But who knows, they're pretty strong in the fast corners and have sorted out their traction issues with the Miami-Imola updates.

[venkyhere]

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https://cdn.xcancel.com/pic/orig/CC1226 ... AAqdTG.jpg

Red Bull looks pretty confident with their low downforce rear wing

I wonder what it will do to their tyre deg from sector2 and sector3 on a super hot track. Maybe they can 'deal with it' with more cranked up beam wing(s).
I wouldn't be surprised if by the time it's Q, this changes from low DF to a low-mid or even mid DF wing.

It's not like they'll gain much in S1 because there are 3 DRS zones that basically nullify the rear wing choice. But who knows, they're pretty strong in the fast corners and have sorted out their traction issues with the Miami-Imola updates.

You are talking from a quali perspective. I am talking from a race perspective - smaller rear wing will help defend against overtakes, but the cost (I reckon) will be tyre life (esp on boiling tarmac). It's a thursday attachment anyway, what we saw today. Let's wait until Q to see what the final RW choice looks like.

[SB15]

I wonder what it will do to their tyre deg from sector2 and sector3 on a super hot track. Maybe they can 'deal with it' with more cranked up beam wing(s).
I wouldn't be surprised if by the time it's Q, this changes from low DF to a low-mid or even mid DF wing.

It's not like they'll gain much in S1 because there are 3 DRS zones that basically nullify the rear wing choice. But who knows, they're pretty strong in the fast corners and have sorted out their traction issues with the Miami-Imola updates.

You are talking from a quali perspective. I am talking from a race perspective - smaller rear wing will help defend against overtakes, but the cost (I reckon) will be tyre life (esp on boiling tarmac). It's a thursday attachment anyway, what we saw today. Let's wait until Q to see what the final RW choice looks like.

Redbull did the same in Canada, looks like they're trying to qualify very high up in the order and stay in clean air as long as possible, the issue is the end of sector 2 and all of sector 3 where you need the tyres.

I think it's really ambitious, Max would have to put in a stormer of a lap to get ahead of both Mclarens and Mercs but, stay there long enough where the tyres doesn't degrade and heat up as much since it'll be 32c on Sunday.

[chrisc90]

What wing did they run last year?

[Matt2725]

It's not like they'll gain much in S1 because there are 3 DRS zones that basically nullify the rear wing choice. But who knows, they're pretty strong in the fast corners and have sorted out their traction issues with the Miami-Imola updates.

You are talking from a quali perspective. I am talking from a race perspective - smaller rear wing will help defend against overtakes, but the cost (I reckon) will be tyre life (esp on boiling tarmac). It's a thursday attachment anyway, what we saw today. Let's wait until Q to see what the final RW choice looks like.

Redbull did the same in Canada, looks like they're trying to qualify very high up in the order and stay in clean air as long as possible, the issue is the end of sector 2 and all of sector 3 where you need the tyres.

I think it's really ambitious, Max would have to put in a stormer of a lap to get ahead of both Mclarens and Mercs but, stay there long enough where the tyres doesn't degrade and heat up as much since it'll be 32c on Sunday.

Low DF wing isn't really going to help you qualify high here though. The track is mostly DRS and the bit that isn't, a low DF wing will be a problem for sliding around in the medium speed corners.

[search]

Dunne looks pretty fast for a Friday driver. He is also not doing any charge laps, so the times could be even better

[pantherxxx]

The fact that a 19-year - old rookie, driving the MCL39 for the first time, is already only two-tenths off the best lap shows that McLaren has by far the best car. It might even be more dominant than the 2023 Red Bull - they just don’t have a strong enough driver lineup to consistently maximize points.