Honda RA107

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Tp wrote:Wow Honda must have some serious problems with air management around the sidepods, look at the size of the sidepod vanes!! But this is probably because the RA07 has no bargeboards, unlike ferrari or Renault for example.
I dont think its a problem i think is just a differant metholigy. As you said no bargeboards so its just a differant way of using the air over the body.

I have looked at all the pictures i can, and i am still finding it really hard to make out anything. Atleast we are not looking at it and wondering what has changed.

I am really hoping honda do well this year.
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BreezyRacer
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One thing I can see after some study is that the turning vanes are very large, projecting out maybe 20 inches ahead of the sidepod. I haven't seen anything that radical yet. Toyota also have gone "bargeless" but their turning vanes, while large, are still only about half the size of the Honda.

This of course, could all be a bit of BS, as in a heartbeat any of these teams could slap some barge boards on these cars.

PNSD
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BAR / Honda havent had use of bargeboards in a while.

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ThomasFredrickSmith wrote:
I see Honda have copied Renault's new sidepod-mounted mirrors (or were they copied from Ferrari?). Wonder how many other teams have thought of that?
My mistake, the angle of the picture must be deciving my eyes. Doesn't help that the car is painted black either. They just reminded me of Renault's wing mirrors.

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This intrigues me.

Ferrari's Aldo Costa:
"...As a result of more stringent crash tests that have come into force this year, the F2007 is just under 10kg heavier than the old car...."

Honda's Nakamoto:
"The main design challenge has been achieving improved aerodynamic efficiency whilst accommodating tough new safety regulations specific to the car’s crash structures. I am pleased that we have been able to achieve this objective at the same time as reducing the overall weight of the car.

Either Honda had quite a bit of scope for weight reduction relative to Ferrari, or Ferrari has done a bad job.

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I imagine most, if not all, of that 10kg weight increase has come about due to the increased wheel base whilst maintaining the chassis stiffness.
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Ranald wrote:I imagine most, if not all, of that 10kg weight increase has come about due to the increased wheel base whilst maintaining the chassis stiffness.
Exactly.

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RacingManiac
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I see they have moved the tie-rod back in plane with the top wishbone.....

PNSD
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Wasnt that changed for 2005/6?

Octavarium
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Really like the look of the RA107, especially in black! Part of me wants them to keep this livery - especially if they have something as horrendus as the Renault scheme planned!!!

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PNSD wrote:Wasnt that changed for 2005/6?
I think RA106 had it out of plane and now they moved it back...

Sawtooth-spike
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Fing black Car!!! I keep looking at this and tryign to work out if its the RA106 or the RA107 running last years nose.

I have given up looking can somebody help me, cus its annoying me.

If it is the RA106 then why are they running it, they had 2 RA107 Chassis lastweek [/list]
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allan
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i'd say it's an 106.. u can notice the rear wiglets on the engine covers, apart form the front suspension and the front wing :wink:

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joseff
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Also on the 107 the sidepod winglets are attached to the chimneys. This pic shows the little support pillars, like the 106.