10 Year Engine development freez

[Militia Est Vita]

Well, maybe champ car will have cooler engines than F1 in a time soon.

http://www.f1technical.net/news/7534
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63626

[tomislavp4]

hell nooooooooooooooo! 10 years, are they nuts [-(

[scarbs]

Wow, I didnt see that coming. but I guess the engine freeze allows the teams to work on transmissions and KERS. I can see the top engine guys packing up their desks and heading for a proper series to develop internal combustion engines for....

Scarbs

My idea for F1engine-development.com has gone up in smoke...!

[checkered]

Wow, I didnt see that coming. but I guess the engine freeze allows the teams to work on transmissions and KERS.

My first thought

about that is that it's possibly the most stupid approach available to separate ICE engineering from efficiency/energy recovery efforts. I'm still waiting for a decent rationale for the continued freeze (I'm tempted to call it "homoillogation" or something ...) but whether one is forthcoming or not, I sense a deep feeling of disillusionment creeping on me. This is F1 being used to fight windmills, stalling new structures of energy economy emerging in a way that would threaten old players. Well, if there's anything that history teaches us, being unable to conform leads to insignificance or oblivion. I have advocated and will do my darndest for a sustainable and replenishing economy to emerge. Looking at this development, I have to wonder whether it places the sport in polar opposition to where I'm coming from. If so, then so be it.

[luisandregg]

Will the engineers play chess during 10 years?

[checkered]

High school history

temporal hypermedia immersive presentation title, ca. 2094:

2008 - 2018
A Decade During Which
F1 Engines Were Frozen and
Polar Regions Weren't

Edit: Sorry about that, my inner tree hugger is having a fit.

[johny]

they had a bunch of good technical proposals to go green; not just kers, more efficient engines, turbocompresion... engeneers now should move to the
aerodinamics side or looking for a job in motogp or lms

[pnagy]

when was the last time anything stayed the same for ten years, let alone anything involved in any sort of racing

[DaveKillens]

According to the FIA, they intend to add new technologies and powerplant concepts to Formula One in the coming future. How and when, is not for sure yet. But it will happen, and the odds are very good it will be within ten years. I believe this freeze is put in place to (hopefully in the mind of Max) stop major development on powerplants and just allow minor revisions. Of course, it may lower costs. Max hops so, although hard experience tells me the factories will spend just as much, just on something else.
So, this is supposed to be a period of stagnation, until the new and exciting powerplant ideas are finalized and allowed to be developed. I do believe the serious teams are already spending money on that.

[jddh1]

what the heck? 2 years I guess is feasible, but 10 years is just silly. people will complain, trust me and they'll have to change it, just like when they went through that phase with qualifying formats before they found a decent solution.

[mx_tifoso]

With the current powerplants only being two seasons "old", why is there such a rush to introduce a new design? It took V10's about a decade or so to be replaced, it seems to me that F1 is going nowhere too fast.

There is so much development possible with these wonderful powerplants that it seems a waste to freeze them for three years, and a decade seems like an engineers worst nightmare. I'm beginning to wonder whats worse; these decade long freezes or political warefare similar to this seasons.

Maybe FIA supremos should think these regulations a bit more thoroughly, and consider the fans while they're at it. But I guess the second idea doesn't matter so much as long as the costs decrease right, because thats what really matters. It appears that they expect fans to take as much nonsense as their willing to dish out, I guess for the most part we are, because love is blind. Although one day we might just open our eyes and make a bold decision, just like Manchild did not too long ago.

[persovik]

I believe it is good news, because it allows for a stability that has been lacking in recent years. Freezing the engines doesn't stop development, it allows for refinement of existing design, admittedly with some restriction.
If and when energy recovery is introduced, the development in this area will take up resources, and saving on the engine seems a good way of allowing for these resources. In terms of total fuel efficiency, engergy recovery will probably be a lot more significant than continued engine development, so the environment lobby shouldn't be complaining.

[johny]

It has huge restrictions on new parts so teams won't refine so much. This would just move the money destined to engine r&d to aerodinamic r&d (i.e. wind tunnels and supercomputers)

[Carlos]

Speculations and Musing - What a massive HP advantage a new engine buiilder could doing the R&D and entering F1.
Everything is transitory...a 10 year rule...i don't think we have had a rule last 10 years in F1. Everything is against this rule. Family cars have as much tech. Other racing series engines are as advanced. Ferrai's move into GP1 (whatever it is) is starting to make marketing sense. F1 fans are loosing interest...just reading our Forum, lots of us are starting to get bored. In a world that thrives on innovation and this weeks flavour... I just can't see it

[freedom_honda]

what are all the engineers are gonna do for the next 10 years???

well if that's the case then i think future f1 cars will have LOTS of weird aero parts and pieces as the teams put most of their money into the aero department..