Do you REALLY think the lack of results is down to the driver?xpensive wrote:When Nico Rosberg has been making noises about his Williams drive for quite some time now, I can't help wondering over his value to Frank and Patrick.
The of them have a indeed a record of being rather rational with their driver-choices, thinking Mansell, Prost and Hill, why it wouldn't surprise me to see the young Rosberg without a drive when his contract is out.
to conceptual: yes, in this case it's the car. but a lack of results can certainly be down to the driver. example: imagine if renault had two nelson piquet jrs in 2008 instead of one piquet and one alonso. catch my drift?Conceptual wrote:Do you REALLY think the lack of results is down to the driver?xpensive wrote: The of them have a indeed a record of being rather rational with their driver-choices, thinking Mansell, Prost and Hill, why it wouldn't surprise me to see the young Rosberg without a drive when his contract is out.
Rosberg was a GP2 champion...kovalainen was not a GP2 champion.andartop wrote: to guy_smiley: you believe he (Nico) at the very very least would have done a lot better than kovi ! ! ! Sorry mate, but how can we ALL agree (if anyone) with such an IF, especially since it's only based on BELIEF!!! The only thing I believe blindfolded is evidence-based science...(no, that was a lie, I still have serious doubts about certain issues!!!)
They openly addmitted that they had a design flaw in front wing, that caused it to lose downforce when car steered.xpensive wrote:Actually, I am a great fan of Nico's and while I can understand his frustration with this year's car, I am not totally convinced that Williams see it the same way.
It's also the Walrus-nose experiment that cost them dearly. Up until 2004, they were a front-running team - but ever since 2004 they're midfield at best. The 2008 chassis was excellent as far as grip goes - note the performances on grip-biased tracks like Monaco and Singapore - but their aero was down the drain with that front wing..xpensive wrote:As for the gradual downturn of the once great team's fortunes, I think there are two distinctive milestones, losing Adrian Newey for a sorry argument over job-descriptions in 97 and failing to accommodate BMW's input in 2004.
The latter resulting in the loss of a great engine as well as sponsor HP.
In both cases Patrick Head was the guy who started the fight.xpensive wrote:...As for the gradual downturn of the once great team's fortunes, I think there are two distinctive milestones, losing Adrian Newey for a sorry argument over job-descriptions in 97 and failing to accommodate BMW's input in 2004.
The latter resulting in the loss of a great engine as well as sponsor HP.
I didn't dispute that, I disputed whether we should ALL agree Nico would have been MUCH MUCH better to say THE LEAST than Kovi in a McLaren.. It's something possible, but definitely not indisputable. Some might argue he might have been MUCH MUCH WORSE. We simply have to accept that we 'll never know, unless these two guys end up in the same team..guy_smiley wrote: Rosberg was a GP2 champion...kovalainen was not a GP2 champion.
There's no point disputing that.
not much additional information except, that Head allways collided with the top engineer (theissen, Newey) whoever was in that role. last time with Sam Michaels. they made Michaels technical director and Head promised to step back and let him do the job. I have my doubts how well that has worked. Williams seem to be unable to attract a top aerodynamicist since Newey and responsibility for this can only be with Head as the engineering partner.xpensive wrote:Most interesting WhiteBlue, care to elaborate?
